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State Department Spokesman Insults Islam

Nice going clown.

Iran's foreign minister walked out of a dinner of diplomats where he was seated directly across from Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, ostensibly because a female violinist entertaining the gathering was dressed too revealingly.

"I don't know which woman he was afraid of, the woman in the red dress or the secretary of state," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Friday, regarding the actions of Iran's Manouchehr Mottaki.

Insults like these might appeal to the rabid nutjobs who believe that we are in a war with Islam, but they do nothing to promote the interests of our country and help us succeed in the war on terror. McCormack shouldn't apologize; he should be fired.

Updated: Reuters reports that Mottaki walked out before Rice arrived.


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Comments (19)

Paul Hamilton:

He was probably just looking for any excuse to embarrass Rice and make a spectacle of himself. I've started thinking of Iran's foreign policy being about the same as North Korea's, namely disrupting things and drawing attention to themselves.

That being said, the US is supposed to be better than that so responding in kind turned what should have been little more than a temper tantrum into one more obstacle in the path of resolving the mess in the mideast.

Bush has chosen people just like himself as diplomats which has turned the State Department into the Brat Department.

Heralder:

So overt misogyny displayed by a foreign diplomat should simply be ignored? An unhealthy hatred of women is part of their religion, let's be multicultural!

No, Iran's foreign minister insulted Islam by acting like and unprofessional, unyeilding, ignorant asshole.

Heralder:

Furthermore, if they're going to take offense of being called "afraid of women" they shouldn't act like they are.

DJ Drummond:

Give McCormack a bonus and a commendation!

THAT's straight talk, and long overdue from a DIPlomat!

Paul Hamilton:

Heralder: What is your basis for the statement that Muslims have an "unhealthy hatred of women" or that they are "afraid of women?"

I'm not a Muslim so I don't have a great deal of insight about this, but just from observation, it seems to me that what the radical clerics are really doing is treating women as property and doing everything in their power to dehumanize them. By covering up a woman's entire body, they aren't just disguising the naughty bits, they're obliterating everything that makes them a unique individual. And that goes along with their belief that women shouldn't be educated or in any way be equal to men.

But that's not fear or hatred.

Paul Hamilton:

DJ: Diplomacy isn't about straight talk. It's about getting someone to do what YOU want them to while making them think it's all their idea.

What diplomatic achievement do you believe will come from McCormick's snide remarks?

Heralder:

Paul, my observations are the same, but my conclusions are different.

I don't believe it to be merely a position of power causes them to mistreat women so.

The idea is that it's indecent to show any part of their body because if a man sees it, he will be stoked with passion and overrun by impure thoughts, which makes rape perfectly justifiable apparently, and causes the women to be blamed and often executed for it.

Not being able to view a woman because you will lose control of yourself, to me, equates to fear. Killing them indiscriminately and treating them like property, to me, equates to hatred.

Highlighting these occurances and coming to the seemingly obvious conclusions apparently amounts to insulting Islam to Larkin.

Heralder:

Paul,

What diplomatic achievement do you believe will come from McCormick's snide remarks?

An unfortunately irrelevant question, as the diplomat rudely stood up and left. Kind of hard to conduct diplomacy under those circumstances...and I don't think that behavior should be coddled and condoned.

Heralder:

Larkin,

McCormack shouldn't apologize; he should be fired.

Did he call him a nappy headed ho or something and I missed it? He commented on Mottaki's unnacceptable behavior.

Manouchehr Mottaki on the other hand, did not fulfill his job requirements by insulting everyone in the room by walking out. It is he that should be fired.


Heralder:

Larkin,

So Heralder, are the Amish overt misogynists too? They subordinate their women to men and cover them up just like the fundamentalist Muslims do.

I know less about the Amish than I do about Muslims, but if that's the case, it would appear they are, yes.

Heralder:

Larkin, I would advise you to not trap yourself into trying to defend this behavior, it's indefensible.

I can only imagine the post you would have put up if Rice stood up and walked out. Kind of a nice double standard you've constructed here.

Heralder:

I just pulled a Kim, posting like three times in a row, sorry about that...I know it makes the discussion harder to follow.

Paul Hamilton:

Heralder said:
Not being able to view a woman because you will lose control of yourself, to me, equates to fear.

That would be correct except I believe that they are just using that as an excuse. It's their way of putting the best possible face on a virtual enslavement of all women by saying they are just doing it to protect them and making it even more innocent by blaming themselves for the necessity.

Paul Hamilton:

Heralder said:
I don't think that behavior should be coddled and condoned.

Me either. It should be ignored rather than rewarded. I'm sure the Iranians will now say that not only were their sensibilities offended by the musician, but that we insulted them besides, so in their twisted way, this is playing into their hands.

Paul Hamilton:

Larkin:
>>So Heralder, are the Amish overt misogynists too? They subordinate their women to men and cover them up just like the fundamentalist Muslims do.

No they don't! We have Amish and Mennonites in my home state and while they believe in dressing plainly and modestly, they do NOT require anything like a burqa.

Heralder:

Paul:

That would be correct except I believe that they are just using that as an excuse.

I'm not in a position to say, but excuse or no the point still comes across that they're afraid on some level.

It should be ignored rather than rewarded.

The problem is that I feel by ignoring it you are rewarding it. If you just let people do whatever they want while you ignore it, they're going to eventually get the idea that they can walk all over you.

Larkin,

Regarding the update: It makes Mottaki's behavior no less offensive.

cirby:

So, are we now going to require all Iranian diplomats to wear Western-style suits, to avoid offending our sensitivities?

And it's really hard to take the leftist view of "just talk to them and it'll all work out," when they can't even manage to sit in a room with a woman not of their religion (and not bound by their laws). If they can't manage that, then diplomacy in the modern world is going to be far, far beyond their reach.

U.P. Man:

About the Amish, don't they have the same dress requirements for men?

Paul Hamilton:

U.P. -- That's correct. Plain and modest clothing for both sexes. Some sects are so strict that they don't even allow zippers.


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