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Santorum Thrilled About Prospect of Terror

from Crooks and Liars:

Santorum went on to clearly imply that terror attacks will occur inside America which will alter the body politic and lead to a reversal of the anti-war sentiment now dominating the country.

"Between now and November, a lot of things are going to happen, and I believe that by this time next year, the American public's going to have a very different view of this war, and it will be because, I think, of some unfortunate events, that like we're seeing unfold in the UK. But I think the American public's going to have a very different view," said the former senator from Pennsylvania.

It's shameful that anyone would discuss a potential tragedy and speculate that it would be a political benefit. Imagine what would happen if a Democrat were to think out loud about the political benefits of a Gulf hurricane -- the RW noise machine would go ballistic...


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Comments (19)

kim:

What about Reid rejoicing that the war would increase Senate Democratic seats before the last election. I've no link, but you can find one.
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kim:

He said it this year, Friday the 13th, in the WaPo.
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Lee Ward:

Isn't Santorum the nutcake who claimed WMDs had been found in Iraq when the US army uncovered a can of Raid under a kitchen sink somewhere...?

Yep.. same guy.

kim:

You do know, Lee, that Joe Wilson in a 2/6/03 op-ed in the LATimes, claimed that we shouldn't invade Iraq for fear that Saddam would use his biological and chemical weapons on our troops. You could look it up.
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Heralder:

Yeah, he dropped the ball. Subtle, but still not appropriate.

I think using the words "Thrilled", "Excited", and "Looking forward to" in regards to terrorism is deliberate exaggeration though.

Lee Ward:

Searching the LA Times website..

-- Keyword Wilson

-- Search field as "author",

-- Op-Ed as 'section',

-- prior to 1/1/2004 as date

turns up zero hits, kim.

Maybe you'll have better luck - link.

Heralder:

Larkin:

The fearmongers are at it again. Trying to scare you into voting for them.

lol!

Paul Hamilton:

Heralder, I think the word fits. There's a thought process among the RWers now that in spite of all the facts they remain right about Iraq, and they're desperately looking around for anything that would make the general public believe the things they do and people like Santorum believe that another massive terrorist attack would do the trick. I can't think of any other way to describe it than to say that, at least in a political sense, he's actually HOPING for an attack for the change in attitude he believes would result.

How else could you explain his statement?

mantis:

It's on Wilson's website:

"Big Cat" With Nothing to Lose

He did say Hussein would use WMDs if invaded,

There is now no incentive for Hussein to comply with the inspectors or to refrain from using weapons of mass destruction to defend himself if the United States comes after him.

And he will use them; we should be under no illusion about that.

Hussein and Aziz both told me directly that Iraq reserved the right to use every weapon in its arsenal if invaded, just as it had against Iran and later the Kurds.

but that wasn't the reason he said we shouldn't invade,

We should do everything possible to avoid the understandable temptation to send American troops to fight a war of "liberation" that can be waged only by the Iraqis themselves. The projection of power need not equate with the projection of force.

Lee Ward:

So he did, thanks for the link.

Heralder:

Paul,

How else could you explain his statement?

He said:

...the American public's going to have a very different view of this war, and it will be because, I think, of some unfortunate events, that like we're seeing unfold in the UK.

I'm not going to shoot myself in the foot here by trying to defend him...I'm only arguing about the adjectives indicating he's overjoyed at the prospect when I don't believe that that was clear. It's a biased distillation of his remarks. It's also very clearly snipped right out of the middle of a conversation. The question or topic in which this was a response to was not provided.

We all know how context can transform meaning, and it'd sure be nice to have some here.

Paul Hamilton:

I'm sure he would describe it as unfortunate, but if Santorum and his ilk would immediately go around claiming that such a tragedy would justify all sorts of completely irrelevant military adventurism, that would show that he was exploiting the situation at the very least and the very idea of such a thing is very offensive to me.

And that's exactly what I believe happened after 9-11. There would have been no stomach for a full-blown invasion of Iraq under normal circumstances but Bush exploited the shock and fear of the terrorist attacks to do what he'd hoped to do long before 9-11.

kim:

mantis, the Big Cat one is from San Jose, and months earlier, I believe. The 2/6/03 op-ed is famous. Odd you can't find it. It was my main early clue, three years ago, that Joe Wilson is either a coward or a traitor. I'm still not sure which.
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kim:

OK, mantis, I looked and you are right: Big Cat.
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kim:

"We should be under no illusion about that", a quote from Joe Wilson stating that Saddam would use WMD.

So what's that about lying us into war?

Do you see my point?
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kim:

I'm proud of you, mantis; real BDS would have not shown that. Maybe you have pseudo BDS.
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Lee Ward:

Wilson's drum-beating over misinformation centered on the yellow-cake lie, no? Obviously, as you've thoughtfully shown, kim, Wilson believed other aspects of Bush's BS -- but he knew for a fact the yellow-cake story was bullshit, and he called the administration on it.

kim:

What you fail to remember, Lee, is that this was not just Bush's BS. This was Wilson's own BS. And there were a lot of people, on all sides of the aisles, who believed Saddam had WMD. Be under no illusion about that.

And you repeat his lie. He didn't debunk the Yellow Cake forgeries when he returned from Niger. His report somewhat ambivalently supported the idea that Iraq had inquired about yellow cake in 1999.
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kim:

That was what the SSCI had revealed of his lying. Originally, through Pincus and Kristoff, he'd claimed that he debunked them on his return. I suspect he told Rockefeller and Kerry that, too. By the time of his op-ed, he knew that was insupportable, so he didn't make that claim. I'd like to see what Kerry or Rockefeller would say about him now.

There was a 'crazy report' out of Africa before his trip, but the CIA didn't get the forgeries until October, 2002, when the clerk checking them in noted 'funky seals' on them. They then sat around in some counter-proliferation office in the CIA until shortly before the war when they were sent to the IAEA who quickly declared them forgeries.

Now, if Plame's unit heard of a 'crazy report' a year before the war, and got copies of the forgeries with 'funky seals' 5 months before, and only sent them to the IAEA for debunking 2 weeks before the war, who did the lying of us into war?

This is not over, mantis. The 'Bush Lied, People Died' meme is false and is probably a main source for your BDS, at least as your's is manifested to me. Unless we've won the war outright by next year, fat chance, destroying Joe's lying meme will be critical for a Republican victory. Don't you think Joe and Val are going to be destroyed over their lies?

And rest assured, they've lied. Under oath.
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