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Thom Hartmann interviews Paul Craig Roberts

Bumped: (audio embed added - originally posted July 22, 2007) bryanD suggests in the comment thread that to fully appreciate what Roberts has to say you should listen to the full interview, so we've embedded the audio below (just click on the play button), or you can download the 4.9 Mb Quicktime audio file by doing a right-click "Save As" on this link.

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Old-line Republican warns 'something's in the works' to trigger a police state

Thom Hartmann began his program on Thursday by reading from a new Executive Order which allows the government to seize the assets of anyone who interferes with its Iraq policies.

He then introduced old-line conservative Paul Craig Roberts [pictured above] -- a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under Reagan who has recently become known for his strong opposition to the Bush administration and the Iraq War -- by quoting the "strong words" which open Roberts' latest column: "Unless Congress immediately impeaches Bush and Cheney, a year from now the US could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran."

"I don't actually think they're very strong," said Roberts of his words. "I get a lot of flak that they're understated and the situation is worse than I say. ... When Bush exercises this authority [under the new Executive Order] ... there's no check to it. It doesn't have to be ratified by Congress. The people who bear the brunt of these dictatorial police state actions have no recourse to the judiciary. So it really is a form of total, absolute, one-man rule. ... The American people don't really understand the danger that they face."

Roberts said that because of Bush's unpopularity, the Republicans face a total wipeout in 2008, and this may be why "the Democrats have not brought a halt to Bush's follies or the war, because they expect his unpopular policies to provide them with a landslide victory in next year's election."

However, Roberts emphasized, "the problem with this reasoning is that it assumes that Cheney and Rove and the Republicans are ignorant of these facts, or it assumes that they are content for the Republican Party to be destroyed after Bush has his fling." Roberts believes instead that Cheney and Rove intend to use a renewal of the War on Terror to rally the American people around the Republican Party. "Something's in the works," he said, adding that the Executive Orders need to create a police state are already in place.

"The administration figures themselves and prominent Republican propagandists ... are preparing us for another 9/11 event or series of events," Roberts continued. "Chertoff has predicted them. ... The National Intelligence Estimate is saying that al Qaeda has regrouped. ... You have to count on the fact that if al Qaeda's not going to do it, it's going to be orchestrated. ... The Republicans are praying for another 9/11."

"Americans think their danger is terrorists," said Roberts. "They don't understand the terrorists cannot take away habeas corpus, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution. ... The terrorists are not anything like the threat that we face to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution from our own government in the name of fighting terrorism. Americans just aren't able to perceive that."

Roberts pointed out that it's old-line Republicans like himself, former Reagan associate deputy attorney general Bruce Fein, and Pat Buchanan who are the diehards in warning of the danger. "It's so obvious to people like us who have long been associated in the corridors of power," he said. "There's no belief in the people or anything like that. They have agendas. The people are in the way. The Constitution is in the way. ... Americans need to comprehend and look at how ruthless Cheney is. ... A person like that would do anything."

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Comments (4)

bryanD:

Great post, Lee!

(provided the audio link is followed (at source: right click> save target as...desktop))

The "homeland" = Heimat allusion in the interview: priceless. Bushian codeword for the Adepts. For everyone else: thx NEA!

Collect call: Wiz Classic: put down the sci-fi novels, take your hands out of your pants, put the Uhura glossies away.

civil behavior:

I listened to this audio days ago. It turns out that even a few republicans are worried about the newest version of republican democracy as envisioned by our very own military corporate theocrats.

As we sit idle waiting for the hammer to drop, the sickle is clearing the way for American style fascism.

Anyone who doubts the serious situation that is percolating in the secret situation rooms of this government hasnt been paying enough attention.

There is no way these plutocrats plan to hand over the biggest prize they have managed to position themselves to reap for their "ownership society"

Get real Blue. Revolution by the masses in the streets is about the only thing left. Watch C span if you want any further proof of the gridlock that has frozen us in a gentlemanly agreement of collective suicide.

It's past time for action.

groucho:

Unfortunately the vast majority of the public is in denial regarding the possibility of this happening. They may disagree with Bush and want him gone, but I think deep down most folks just can't believe America could fall victim to a naked power grab and resulting fascist-like control of the government.

I have been paying attention and it scares the living shit out of me.

bryanD:

Well done, lee. Ye olde political pincers movement.

In the following passage, those enthralled to the neocons are the Eunuchs. Jehu is the Truth:

And when Jehu was come to Jezreel, Jezebel heard of it; and she painted her face, and tired her head, and looked out at a window. And as Jehu entered in at the gate, she said, Had Zimri peace, who slew his master?

And he lifted up his face to the window, and said, Who is on my side? who? And there looked out to him two or three eunuchs. And he said, Throw her down. So they threw her down: and some of her blood was sprinkled on the wall, and on the horses and he trod her under foot. And when he was come in, he did eat and drink, and said, Go, see now this cursed woman, and bury her: for she is a king's daughter. And they went to bury her: but they found no more of her than the skull, and the feet, and the palms of her hands. Wherefore they came again, and told him. And he said, This is the word of the Lord, which he spake by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of Jezebel: and the carcass of Jezebel shall be as dung upon the face of the field in the portion of Jezreel; so that they shall not say, This is Jezebel.
2 Kings ix, 30-37.


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