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Bush Agrees with Obama on Pakistan

Poor, poor losers on the right. Doing their best to paint dark, ominous shadings across Obama's call to finally -- once and for all -- take the fight to the al-Qaeda strongholds and root them out of their caves in Pakistan.

In other words, Obama is being skewered for committing to finish the job President George Walker Bush promised to do when he lied us into this hellhole of a war in Iraq over five years ago.

But you'll notice that none of the hypocrites on the right thought it was a bad idea when the White House stated back on July 19th that President Bush was not ruling out the idea of invading Pakistan for the very same purpose.

Q Can I change the subject to Pakistan? Does the President have full confidence in Musharraf, particularly given the violence there from the Islamic --

MR. SNOW: Well, I think -- look, President Musharraf has put his life on the line and has been a very important ally in the war on terror. It's also clear that Taliban and al Qaeda, in the northwest territories and the federally administered tribal areas, have begun to put on operations that threaten the government of Pakistan itself, which is why President Musharraf, having tried one approach, in terms of dealing with the tribal leaders, is now going to have to be more aggressive and is being more aggressive moving forces into the region to deal with the security problems there.

Q Does the President rule out any U.S. military activity in Pakistan?

MR. SNOW: We never rule out any options, including striking actionable targets.

Q I'm sorry, including --

MR. SNOW: Striking actionable targets.

Striking actionable targets, like al-Qaeda strongholds -- just like Obama.

The trained and coached liars on the right won't admit to the fact that what Obama has suggested is nothing more than what the White House had already put on the table a few weeks ago.

Obama wants to finish the job George failed to do. Is it the right's patent dishonesty that's showing, or is the fact that the White House Spokesliar Tony Snow said that invading Pakistan was a viable option a whole two weeks ago, and the short attention-span fast food workers who populate the right wing blogosphere can't remember what their beloved White House was espousing just 14 days earlier?

14 days... that's a long time when your modus operandi is to forget everything that's happened in the past because of the horrorific images of the lives you've destroyed by electing and supporting the Republican Crown Prince of military blunders and diplomatic buffoonery.

Obama proposes to finish the job America wants finished, and the liars on the right hate him for it.

Related: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/08/04/asia/AS-GEN-Pakistan-US-Obama.php

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Comments (12)

U.P. Man:

I think Senator Obama, wants to attack with or without Pakistans approval.

It would also be more accurate to say, Obama agrees with President Bush, as the statement you are reffering to was out first.

Conservative Friend:


Lee; check out the July Casualty figures at "Iraq Casualty Count."

It appears that that the high fives over "low numbers" in July by the rightosphere can be shot apart again. The figures are still coming in.

The total military toll for July now stands at 89, higher than the monthly average in the first quarter of this year! I want to hear the righties say "but but we don't count the British dead."

Conservative Friend:


Plus from todays Washington Post

"Iraqi government figures released on Wednesday showed a sharp rise in the number of Iraqi civilians killed in July to 1,653 from 1,227 in June. The July figure of civilian deaths was in line with previous months this year after June had seen deaths fall"

Lee Ward:

Conservative Friend - Thanks for the tip, but please use the tips email address on the front page in the future. Emails sent to that address reach all of the Wizbang Blue writers, and you'll have a better chance of your tip reaching one of us.

Lee Ward:

UP Man: "I think Senator Obama, wants to attack with or without Pakistans approval."

Come on, UP Man, click the links every once in a while, you might learn something. The following is a question that was posed during the same Tony Snow press gaggle that I quoted and linked in the post above:

Q Can I just go back to the Pakistan question? Would the President seek Musharraf's permission to strike an actionable --

MR. SNOW: Again, I'm not going to talk about -- those are matters that are best not discussed publicly.

So Snow refused to state that Bush would seek out Musharraf's permission or not.

Bush hasn't said that he would seek permission or not. Have you read anywhere that Obama said that he would or wouldn't? No? Neither have I.

And if Bush's Spokesliar says it "those are matters that are best not discussed publicly" surely you aren't going to suggest that Obama is wrong if he isn't saying either?

I am ambivalent on whether Musharraf should be consulted in advance or not. I suspect not, since the evidence suggests that he's on shaky ground, and who knows how secure his office is at this point - but I would defer to those who know Musharraf's situation better.

Lee Ward:

Damn straight, Larkin. The big-talking RW'ingers support the administration's neglect of Osama bin-Laden and the al-Qaeda in Pakistan because the Republican fear mongering is more effective at scaring the american public when they can hold up and shake their Osama bin-Laden doll at us.

Soft on terrorists, and interested in protecting bin-Laden and AQ from people like Barack Obama who would hunt them down.

U.P. Man:

From Senator Obama's web site:

"The Illinois senator warned Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf that he must do more to shut down terrorist operations in his country and evict foreign fighters under an Obama presidency, or Pakistan will risk a U.S. troop invasion and losing hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid."

So, that sounds awfully like the bully you claim President Bush to be?

We now have you on record as support and invasion of Pakistan. Correct?

So if President Bush does order strikes you will be cheering for them?

U.P. Man:

Refusal to say whether or not they would seek approval for strikes is not the same as saying that they wouldn't.

Now, Senator Obama said he would invade.

If they had stated that they would get permission then you would call them liars if our Armed forces where chasing a group of terrorist back into Pakistan and went in without prior permission?

Lee Ward:

Yes, UP Man, you raising the question of permission in advance has now been shown to be totally irrelevant, and just a red herring to avoid discussing the fact that the right wing is lying and unfairly smearing Obama for his stand on going after AQ in Pakistan - a stand that you in your very first comment admit is not contrary to Bush's own position.

You've made your point, now stop repeating it. Someone may address it - or it may be ignored, but don't keep repeating it.

Steve Crickmore:

Lee, I seem to remember in the early runup (November 1999) to the election in 2000, Governor Bush didn't even know who the leader of Pakistan was...Obama is far more knowledgeable than Bush was at that stage.. Here is the interview and relevant extract from it.

Bush:"The new Pakistani general, he's just been elected - not elected, this guy took over office. It appears this guy is going to bring stability to the country and I think that's good news for the sub-continent," the Republican candidate offered.
Good news, but not an answer, and the interviewer insisted: "Can you name him?"

"General. I can't name the general. General" was all Mr Bush had to offer.


You make far too much of your misidentification of 'striking actionable targets' with 'invading Pakistan'. Credibility suffers.

Lee Ward:

"Invading Pakistan" isn't what Obama said, that's just the lies from right.

Obama said:

"If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will,"

Are you a lie-swallower or a lie-spitter, kim? Do you swallow the right wing lies of others or spew your own?

Either way, your position sucks. Now go get the quote where Obama has advocated (your quotation) "invading Pakistan" and be quick about it. I'm fed up with right wing lies, and banning you and your lies would make my Sunday complete....

I'm giving you a chance to show you aren't lying... get going. No dodging the question, address the accuracy of your comment.


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