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Two-Faced O'Reilly Hits a Double (Standard)

Since Bill "I've never met a nappy-headed, corn-rowed, ice-tea drinking black person I didn't like" O'Reilly and his hip-hop hypocrisy is so much in the news these days, this item from Salon's Tim Grieve really hits a high-note on the BillO-Bluster scale...

Bill O'Reilly's Double Standard

Bill O'Reilly had White House press secretary Dana Perino on his show Wednesday night, and he told her that she shouldn't waste her time talking to some mainstream -- read: non-Fox -- reporters who will "never give you a fair shake" and always "stab you in the back."

When Perino said that it's her job to make the effort anyway, O'Reilly responded: "All right. So you will go into the enemy camp to try to convince? You know, I have to say, with all due respect, you're wasting your time on some of these people ... They hate you. They're always going to hate you. No matter what you do, they'll destroy it."

And yes, that would be the same Bill O'Reilly who once said that John Edwards should be "ashamed" of himself for refusing to participate in a Democratic candidates' debate on Fox.

Actually O'Reilly called Edwards "stupid", and it was White House aide Larry Davis that said Edwards "should be ashamed..."

Here's a link to both Davis waving his tsk tsk finger at Edwards, and our buddy BIllO in all of his BillO-Bluster glory:

O'Reilly Compares Nevada Debate Opponents To Nazis

Tonight, Bill O'Reilly attacked the "radical movement" that opposed the Nevada Democratic Party's debate with Fox News. O'Reilly said that MoveOn, "the Daily Kos or whatever that stupid thing is," and others "use propaganda techniques perfected by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi minister of information. They lie, distort, defame, all the time." Progressive activists attack Fox News because "we report on them accurately," O'Reilly said.

Former White House aide Lanny Davis, a close ally of Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT), joined in the fray. "I'm inclined to give everybody the benefit of the doubt here except the people that are calling for cancellation of the debate because they don't like Fox," Davis said. "I disagree with this pressure from Daily Kos and MoveOn.org to cancel the debate, and I think anybody that took that pressure, including John Edwards ought to be ashamed of themselves."

BillO explains in the interview cited, which is documented at the link with a transcript and video clip, "These people use techniques perfected by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi minister of information. They lie, distort, defame, all the time."

I'm glad O'Reilly, the supreme Fox News Hypo-cretin, is above all of that lying, distorting and defaming...

The right wing media kingpins like O'Reilly and his Phony Fox News compadres are a big part of what is wrong with the United States today. They lie, distort and defame for political gain, all the while lying about the mainstream media in their blatant attempts to convince Americans that the Fox Way is The Way to Truth and Enlightenment.

Nothing is further from the truth than Bill O'Reilly's blustering.


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Comments (6)

Jim:

I think the use of National Socialist analogies (for example I saw a clip of an O'Reilly guest applying the term "liberal gestepo" to media matters) is completely inappropriate.

However, Mr. O'Reilly, regardless of the cheap shot directed at his name did not make any racist comments unless such comments can be assumed by extremely selective quotations.

Lee Ward:

That is, of course, a matter of interpretation.

To illustrate that point, I could say that I recently attended services at a local synagogue, and I was pleasantly surprised to discover that not one of the jews there tried to steal my money!! Wow!

If you don't consider that a bigoted remark, you aren't paying attention.

Jim:

O'Reilly also said his: "It was the same, and that's really what this society's all about now here in the U.S.A. There's no difference. There's no difference. There may be a cultural entertainment -- people may gravitate toward different cultural entertainment, but you go down to Little Italy, and you're gonna have that. It has nothing to do with the color of anybody's skin."

Let's say he was surprised at the high level of the service? Does this prove he was a racist? Perhaps he was naive about the level of economic development, or social development in Harlem since crime nosedived in the Guliani years. That might make him wrong, or even stupid; it might show he lacks understanding of the social sciences but a bigot?

What if O'Reilly said he doubted he could find a top-quality restaurant in the Appalachian country, and pointed to the poverty, crime, and social deficits? Would he be a bigot? Of course not.

O'Reilly may be just a (right-leaning) populist blow hard but this entire claim of racism is unfair.

Lee Ward:

O'Reilly calls decent, left-leaning Americans Nazis, and we're supposed to feel sorry for poor old BillO - F*ck Bill O'Reilly.

O'Reilly expressing surprise that he didn't find a particular stereotype present at Sylvia's restaurant *is still very offensive* - and it most definitely perpetuates the stereotype.

"What if O'Reilly said he doubted he could find a top-quality restaurant in the Appalachian country, and pointed to the poverty, crime, and social deficits? Would he be a bigot? Of course not."

If he expressed surprise at the expensive high-quality quality of food in a low-income area, no - it wouldn't be bigoted, but you're comparing apples and oranges.

If he expressed surprised that the Appalachian waitress and cook weren't married even though they were cousins? Yes, it would be a bigoted remark, and that's more along the lines of what BillO did here.

You're embarrassing yourself by apologizing for this gas bag. He's a bigoted moron who is revered and put on a pedestal by people who think his bigoted humor and attacks are entertainment. He makes his living making controversial remarks -- quit trying to dig him out the controversy he himself dug.

I'm sure you were there defending John Kerry when he was attacked over his remarks about soldiers and their limited opportunities, right Jim?

Well, for the record, I was right there criticizing Kerry for his failure to apologize and for playing the victim, just as I am now with BillO.

Jim:

O'Reilly calls decent, left-leaning Americans Nazis, and we're supposed to feel sorry for poor old BillO - F*ck Bill O'Reilly.

I didn't say you should feel sorry for him, I just think you should get your facts right. Whether you you like him or not is irrevelent, I personallt consider him a pompous blowhard (albeit not nearly as much as one Keith Obbermann or Lou Dobbs) I've already expressed my disapproval over the use of "Nazi" analogies (the guest was Tammy Bruce).

I must differ however on the subjective claim that DailyKos.com, MoveOn.org, or MediaMatters.com are merely "left-leaning." I think it is fairly obvious those types are groups represent far-left thinking in the United States.

O'Reilly expressing surprise that he didn't find a particular stereotype present at Sylvia's restaurant *is still very offensive* - and it most definitely perpetuates the stereotype.

What do you mean?

If he expressed surprise at the expensive high-quality quality of food in a low-income area, no - it wouldn't be bigoted, but you're comparing apples and oranges.

If he expressed surprised that the Appalachian waitress and cook weren't married even though they were cousins? Yes, it would be a bigoted remark, and that's more along the lines of what BillO did here.

I don't understand? Again, perhaps he is an idiot, but he is merely expressing his own surprise. Should he lie and say he was not surprised? He didn't say he was unhappy about the sight of such a successful black-owned and operated business in Harlem, in fact, he said just the opposite.

If a man from, say, Cape Verde, had made these comments would you still be insisting they were bigoted?

Out of curiosity, are even intelligent social commentary discussions forbidden if they might over-generalize? For example, is it acceptable not to be considered a bigot to mention that certain ethnic groups prosper more then others or to suggest that the reasons that this is so may not be exclusively racism, classicism, ex cetera?

What do you make of Juan Williams (sort of a liberal) defense of Mr. O'Reilly? It's not as if he doesn't have a job to fall back on if he gets fired by Fox.

You're embarrassing yourself by apologizing for this gas bag. He's a bigoted moron who is revered and put on a pedestal by people who think his bigoted humor and attacks are entertainment.

Perhaps this is true, but then again you have just made a rather gross generalization to the people who watch the "O'Reilly Factor." Do you have any scientific data to back this up?

I've defended other people with whom I've disagreed over more then O'Reilly, and attacked people with whom I generally agree (I'll never read Ann Coulter again unless you forswears some of her past offensive comments). This isn't about ideology.

He makes his living making controversial remarks...

True enough.

quit trying to dig him out the controversy he himself dug.

I'm doing this primarily out of boredom. I'm pretty well sure Mr. O'Reilly will dig himself out of it by making remarks you, and possibly I, find questionable.

I'm sure you were there defending John Kerry when he was attacked over his remarks about soldiers and their limited opportunities, right Jim?

I'm not sure what this is in reference to. If it is the "Swift Boat" controversy, then I fully admit that many and perhaps all of the criticisms made in the book (I don't recall the title) relating to Senator Kerry's actions as a servicemember in Vietnam seem beyond the pale. If I did not realize this at the time, it was due to youth or being naive. The co-other of that book (I don't remember the title) is peddling absurd extremist right wing conspiracy claims about "The North American Union" now. On the other hands, the claims about Senator Kerry's abhorrent anti-American actions after he came home were certainly open to criticism.

I think it's possible I might be talking about different John Kerry issues then you. :/

Well, for the record, I was right there criticizing Kerry for his failure to apologize and for playing the victim, just as I am now with BillO.

Look, I think Bill O'Reily is handling the aftermath of this in an annoying manner. He isn't going to get fired like Don Imus, although doubtless some groups will campaign for that. For obvious reasons (ratings) that simply will not happen. Part of it's an ego thing certainly. Also, it's an ongoing "storyline" for his show.

Lee Ward:

"I didn't say you should feel sorry for him, I just think you should get your facts right. "

Get this straight -- You haven't disputed any facts, Jim. You've only disagreed with my opinions. You claim his remarks aren't bigoted.

Since I've drawn several analogous examples of exactly how bigoted those comments are (surprise the jews aren't stealing money, or that the Appalachian cousins aren't married), which you've also failed to recognize, it's safe to say you don't have the foggiest clue as to just how bigoted O'Reilly is.

Arguing with you is pointless. You've stated your opinion and lied about me misstating facts -- time for you to go find someplace else to defend this asshole. You're done here now. G'day.


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