Check out Amadeo Sogni's article A Light in the Darkness where he actually does research in comparing legislative records of both Clinton and Obama. It was very illuminating and I would like someone to try to debunk it.

Sogni states:
Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you.

1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.

Only five of Clinton's bills are more substantive.

16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced

233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.

In all since enter the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.

Shocking that those willing to participate in a Luntz focus group aren't very bright or informed (if Luntz would allow such people in one of his Democratic groups at all, that is).

And considering the Senate records for both candidates, as mothermaven notes and as Lee will probably continue to ignore, one wonders: Why is Clinton's experience more impressive? Because she used to live in the White House?

So now you are literally borrowing Republican attack lines. Who's the real Democrat again?

"So now you are literally borrowing Republican attack lines. Who's the real Democrat again?"

Ah yes, the "Obamatronic thought guidelines" calls for uniformity of thought and direction. One must not criticize the young Prince.

The fact that the first session above happened yesterday and the other one a week earlier shows an interesting trend. People are voting for this guy despite the fact that they can't pin any real accomplishments on this donkey, they just like the simple-minded platitudes and the Kumbaya feel good-ness of having a leader in Washington who doesn't know what he's doing.

Lee:

I am not sure that Andy was saying that you were borrowing republican attack lines. I thought he was telling us Obama supporters like myself were doing it. I will let Andy speak for himself though.

I posted a comparison of Clinton and Obama's record and have yet to debunk it. If you cannot then you must agree that Obama has more experience. I can't believe that people underestimate his skills as a grassroots organizer, because it is just those skills that is making his campaign superior to Clinton's. It is also going to be important when he wants to move public opinion to put pressure on Congress to get things done.

Actually, there are a few things I disagree with Obama with and I think that all candidates have the wrong health plan. I disagree with his stance on Tort Reform. I like his ideas for foreign policy, economic policy, and he has solid reproductive rights credentials. The big thing is that I think he has superior leadership skills and tactical skills. He is comfortable in his skin and can project a real break in policy from the last 8 years.

He scares the conservative right because he may be a flaming liberal in their book, but to moderate republicans and independents think his positions are reasonable -- especially if the Clinton Campaign and Krugman tells the world that Obama is not progressive enough.

There are pragmatic reasons to vote for Obama. The soaring rhetoric and the enthusiasm is backed up by very hard-nosed reasoning.

I meant it as Lee interpreted it. The other day he was accusing Obama supporters of being negative, divisive, and false Democrats. Now he's posting Sean Hannity lines of attack. It's pathetic.

As for the specificities of the claim, that example is simply ridiculous. If you watch both videos, you can see that these people are given literally half a second on national television to come up with a question they weren't prepared for. In one clip, Hannity talks over half the answers, making them indecipherable, while in the other, it is clear that some people do have legitimate points (there are clearly several who raise their hands and aren't called on) to make. It's ridiculous to draw any conclusions from these two videos on a program with obvious conservative biases. Lee, however, will buy right into what Hannity is selling because he will do anything to keep Obama from the nomination.

If you really want to know why Obama supporters back him and what they think he has accomplished, don't put them on the spot with no time to think on national television. Ask them and give them a legitimate opportunity to think and respond. Maven has listed several points of Obama accomplishments. I'm sure you can find thousands of other explanations of support/detailed lists of accomplishments across the web.

Beyond that, why would it be so terrible if voters were to support a candidate because he/she inspires them. When did hope and inspiration become a bad thing?

Of course, it's not surprising to see another disingenuous attempt to make Obama look bad from Lee.

Lee

You and I are on the same page on this topic, but I'm afraid you're swimming upstream against not just a strong current, but a veritable tidal wave of Obama hysteria.

The media's coverage of him reminds me of a Tom Jones concert, complete with panties and apartment door keys being thrown at his campaign.

I'm glad so many people found a candidate that inspires them, and the media really does fawn over Obama. I think they must feel guilty for not properly vetting Bush's rush into Iraq, and are trying to compensate.

I also think Obama is a far cry better than John McCain, so maybe you and I diverge once we quit laughing at Obama and his "free pass"...

As long they keep up the "Oooh, ain't he cool" coverage of Obama they, and the fawning ObamaNation of voters, will sweep him into the Democratic nomination with ease. I see this avalanche overtaking Clinton a week or so before Texas and Ohio's primaries on March 4, judging from the way things are going today.

WHOSE GOT THE BEEF?.....

Barack Obama, Obviously!

More bumper sticker platitudes -- how impressive.

Yeah, but we are not bitter, nor are we cynical. We have HOPE!

Only one thing you need to know about Barak Obama:

From his donation page:

Legal Compliance
Check this box to confirm that the following statements are true and accurate:

1. I am a United States citizen or a lawfully-admitted permanent resident.
2. I am at least 16 years old.
3. This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization or national bank.
4. This contribution is not made from the funds of a political action committee.
5. This contribution is not made from the treasury of an entity or person who is a federal contractor.
6. This contribution is not made from the funds of an individual registered as a federal lobbyist or a foreign agent, or an entity that is a federally registered lobbying firm or foreign agent.
7. The funds I am donating are not being provided to me by another person or entity for the purpose of making this contribution.

and here's this one from Hillary's:

By checking this box, I confirm that the following statements are true and accurate:

1. This contribution is made from my own funds, and not those of another.
2. This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization or national bank.
3. I am not a Federal government contractor.
4. I am not a foreign national who lacks permanent resident status in the United States.
5. I am at least 18 years of age.
6. This contribution is made on a personal credit or debit card for which I have the legal obligation to pay, and is made neither on a corporate or business entity card nor on the card of another.

Notice how anything close to the lobbyist statement is missing.

Quite honestly, that's all I need to know about her.

"Quite honestly, that's all I need to know about her."

Raise your standards and dig a little deeper, hansel. Look beyond the bumper stickers. You might find that the task of selecting our next president deserves more thought than "Quite honestly, that's all I need to know about her.