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Palin Qualified? No, They Went for this Political Bullshit About Narratives...

Woohoo - the truth, caught on tape. News Corp's Peggy Noonan, conservative columnist for the Wall Street Journal, and her compatriots tell the truth about the Palin pick, and what a huge, monumental mistake it was for McCain, not knowing that their mics were still open.

Chuck Todd: Mike Murphy, lots of free advice, we'll see if Steve Schmidt and the boys were watching. We'll find out on your blackberry. Tonight voters will get their chance to hear from Sarah Palin and she will get the chance to show voters she's the right woman for the job Up next, one man who's already convinced and he'll us why Gov. Jon Huntsman.

(cut away)

Peggy Noonan: Yeah.

Mike Murphy: You know, because I come out of the blue swing state governor world: Engler, Whitman, Tommy Thompson, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush. I mean, these guys -- this is how you win a Texas race, just run it up. And it's not gonna work. And -

PN: It's over.

MM: Still McCain can give a version of the Lieberman speech to do himself some good.

CT: I also think the Palin pick is insulting to Kay Bailey Hutchinson, too.

PN: Saw Kay this morning.

CT: Yeah, she's never looked comfortable about this -

MM: They're all bummed out.

CT: Yeah, I mean is she really the most qualified woman they could have turned to?

PN: The most qualified? No! I think they went for this -- excuse me- political bull**** about narratives -

CT: Yeah they went to a narrative.

MM: I totally agree.

PN: Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at, they blow it.

MM: You know what's really the worst thing about it? The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical.

CT: This is cynical, and as you called it, gimmicky.

MM: Yeah.

It was a big mistake, John McCain -- and it's not too late to fix it...

Update: Will it Matter?

Here at the Republican Convention in St. Paul, you can't walk from one side of the street to the other without overhearing a loyal party member robotically repeat the key talking point about Sarah Palin: that she's finally "energized" a GOP "base" that was wary, until recently, of John McCain. "It's beyond anything I've seen in politics," South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham gushed in an interview yesterday with NEWSWEEK. "Home run. Whatever intensity problem we had is now gone." I've talked to dozens of Republicans who are pumped for Palin, so there's obviously something to this. But the spin ignores a rather inconvenient truth: the pre-Palin base was already behind its nominee.

For months now, McCain has typically polled better among Republicans (about 85 percent, on average) than Obama has polled among Democrats (about 75 to 80 percent, on average). The problem is, McCain is currently trailing Obama by about six points in the national horse race. Why? Because the Democrats enjoy a six-to-10-point advantage in party identification. In other words, it doesn't really matter how excited right-wing Republicans are about Palin--there aren't enough of them out there to win on Election Day.

The "Palin effect" so far - about nil, according to this CBS poll:

Even after Sen. John McCain named her as his running mate on Friday, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin remained an unknown quantity to most Americans. Sixty-six percent had no opinion of her in a CBS News poll conducted over the weekend. In polling completed on Monday and Tuesday, sixty percent still had no opinion about her.

But of those who did have opinions, 26 percent of the most recently polled were favorable, while only 13 percent were not favorable.

More than one in four voters said that the vice presidential choices will matter this year, but few voters say that having Palin on the Republican ticket will change their vote. Just 14 percent said they are more likely to vote for McCain as a result of having Palin on the ticket, while 13 percent said they are less likely to do so. Sixty-eight percent said it won't make a difference in their vote.

There are still a lot of undecideds out there to whom this may end up mattering a little, or not at all, or a great deal.

A lot can change, beginning tonight with Palin's speech.


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Comments (11)

Paul Duffau:

Lee,

I was going to point out a couple of things and then realized...

...it won't do a bit of good. Because you're tone deaf, just like the Noonan and others. They talked to Kay. That's wonderful.

I talked to Donna. And to Lyn. And others, all in middle America. And they are tickled to death about Palin being on the ticket.

You see, winning is secondary. This is a symbol to many, many women - and the reactions that they see show them both how far they've come and how far there is to go.

McCain may lose with Palin. I'd rate it a toss up because Obama is such a weak candidate. But it's a rocksolid guarantee that he's a goner if he drops her.

Which is probably why you want him to.

GianiD:

If Palin isnt qualified, whats that make Mr 57 states, who is just a marionette for the corrupt lying liberal chicago political machine.

Whats he ever accomplished in life, on his own? NOT. A. DAMNED. THING.

Lee Ward[TypeKey Profile Page]:

Do you really believe that Harvard graduate Barack Obama doesn't know how many states are in the U.S, GianiD?

DaveD:

I am a big Reagan fan, but I don't think Peggy Noonan is able to show any affection for any political figure who is not Ronald Reagan. That has just been my interpetation in reading her in the WSJ these past several years. In fact, this would have been real news to me if Peggy Noonan actually liked and supported Palin. Otherwise, this is just Noonan as usual.

Larry:


Right Lee, the dinner party crowd isn't happy about Palin. That includes Peggy Noonan.

Here is the problem with the polls. On sexism and racial prejudice, nobody talks except a few. Got this Uncle who is blunt. 'I ain't gonna vote for no damn "Nig." His wife hems and haws and says Palin sex doesn't matter. I read her real good. She is lying. They are old people and she isn't looking for a fight with her husband of 53 years. Why? Cause Uncle isn't happy about Palin either.

There are variations of this theme all over the place. I have some Hispanic friends who tell me what is going on in their community and one thing is for sure, they don't talk to pollsters.

Larry:


And the bottom line is. . .

The narratives worked. Do the people in media really think that political campaigns are run by dumbasses? I mean look at people like Dick Morris, Karl Rove and David Axelrod. I mean those people are seriously smart. And they don't make many mistakes. Well, Dick did have this episode with a hooker *grin*

Shannon:

What is this kool-aid the republican sheeple are always harping about? How said. Overweight, lazy, inbred Americans are such a joke around the world.

MIke:

"Do you really believe that Harvard graduate Barack Obama doesn't know how many states are in the U.S, GianiD?"

Yeah, It means so much to be a graduate of Harvard considering they didn't even have a GEO dept. when Obama graduated. So yeah, I do wonder if he knows about how many states are in the US. Kind of sad for an elite school to think GEO isn't important eh?

Larry:

Peggy Noonan has had her say on the open mic deal. She says she was mugged. Given how MSNBC works for Obama, guess she was.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122044753790594947.html?mod=todays_columnists

I am from Texas. I know Kay Bailey Hutchison and have followed her public career for years and years. Simply put, Kay Bailey doesn't have the fire in her belly that Palin has. And she doesn't have the narrative. Kay Bailey also wants to run for Governor as a last hurrah before she retires.

I agree with the rest of Noonan's comments with one exception. This time, maybe the Republicans have learned to use the narrative.

SickofRepublicandevils&racist:

I applaud Palin for her tenacity to run for VP but don't feel she has a clue what she is in for and her poor husband looked so lost like he did not want to be there. Barack has stood for so much and has gotten a lot accomplished on his own. What gets me is that some people will vote Republican although they don't care about the fact his blue collar butt does not have a job.

It is so sad that some racist people would rather the country suffer than vote for a man who will deliver change and place the country back on track.

Poor McClain has alzheimers and is insane, and Palin thinks because she fishes and hunts she can deal with the big boys in Congress. She needs to take her hillbilly ass back to Alaska and learn some parenting skills. How in the hell can your daughter be 5 months pregnant and you not know. That lets you know she is not in touch with her family and if she can't handle a family of 7, what in the world can she do for our nation. She and McClain are out of touch. McClain thinks that middle-class is people who make less than 5 million per year (please). If she grew up poor, then why doesn't she try to help people who are dealing with what she has gone through. She needs time to reflect.

Larry:

sickof. . .

You started out pretty good especially with the line that Todd Palin looked lost. He did now that you mention it.

Then you went downhill from there. The rest of your diatribe was eat up with allegations, opinions ill founded and was, frankly, a discredit to those who think Obama is both qualified and would make a great President. Hysterical manderings might make YOU feel good, but they don't change minds and frankly, they just make YOU look like a lightweight, and frankly, silly.

But I do like your statement:

"What gets me is that some people will vote Republican although they don't care about the fact his blue collar butt does not have a job."

That equally applies to knee jerk liberals and blacks who are true believers and who also don't understand how all politicians work, even Democrats. Just keep one thing in mind as you bask in the glow of the annointed one, a politician, any politician, will break your heart and pick your wallet. It is just what they do. Don't think Obama is a politician? Well, that just proves you don't know much about Chicago politics.


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