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Palin: Iraq is a Task from God

Republican Veep'ette Sarah Palin seems to be another believer who thinks God and Government mix.

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."

Idoctrinate children in a church, teaching them to do God's work, then tell them going off to fight and die for George Bush's diplomatic failures is a "task from God."

But God's will doesn't stop at dying for a phony, trumped up "Global War Against Terror" - no sirree, in Red Country it's also "God's Will" that we build a new natural gas pipeline.

In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."

Palin asked the students to pray for the troops in Iraq, and noted that her eldest son, Track, was expected to be deployed there.

"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan."

A video of the speech was posted at the Wasilla Assembly of God's Web site before finding its way on to other sites on the Internet.

Don't you just love Al Gore's internets?

Atheist Richard Dawkins weighs in:

Three months before she was thrust into the national political spotlight, Gov. Sarah Palin was asked to handle a much smaller task: addressing the graduating class of commission students at her one-time church, Wasilla Assembly of God.

Her speech in June provides as much insight into her policy leanings as anything uncovered since she was asked to be John McCain's running mate.

Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord.

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

Religion, however, was not strictly a thread in Palin's foreign policy. It was part of her energy proposals as well. Just prior to discussing Iraq, Alaska's governor asked the audience to pray for another matter -- a $30 billion national gas pipeline project that she wanted built in the state. "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.

More of Palin's Preachings to follow... and much more of Dawkin's analysis at the link above.


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Comments (13)

Paul Duffau:

Lee,

This has been well covered at http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/03/the-palins-and-the-religious-right.php#comments

And, since I'm relatively new here, are you always religiously bigoted (since I'm agnostic it's more a benchmark question than an accusation) and sexist (Veep'ette?)?

And do you still think that she should be off the ticket?

Ray H.:

Lee and Jay don't play nice in the sandbox and had to be separeted from each other.

Lee Ward[TypeKey Profile Page]:

I don't think she adds anything to the ticket except shoring up the base - which is a sad state of affairs for the GOP.

With the huge success Democrats have had in outreach and voter registrations, the GOP Veep pick should have been one that attracted new voters, instead of trying to hold onto the base.

I called it a desperation move when it first surfaced, and it still is.

I'm not religiously bigoted, Paul. I do believe in the Constitutional mandate separating church and state. The fact that Palin may not share that believe would make her bigoted against the founding principles of our country.

Anytime I see flag-wavers who run counter to the Constitution I see them as enemies of the state who need to be stopped. I'm not saying Palin falls into that category (yet), but the remarks quoted above concern me.

And Jay's post relates to Bristol's pregnancy being used as wedge issue by Democrats, and has nothing to do with the post above -- at least as far as I can tell. I usually read about 20 words of Jay's post and then get bored, but if there was anything specific in Jay's ramblings that actually touches on church/state separation be sure to include it in future comments to this post, rather than just posting a link to another blog, and I'll be happy to discuss it -- thanks.

Paul Duffau:

Somehow that doesn't surprise me, Ray.

Larry:


Palin is being true to her Church, which happens to be Pentacostal, a denomination for which I don't have much respect for a number of reasons, not the least of which is their near fanatic approach, kinda like Obama true believers. That side of humanity turns me off because I have seen so much bad come from it.

In her defense, Palin appears to be smart enough to keep her Church attitude in Church and that context, appropriate, and not in the mainsteam of her daily job as Governor. In other words, I haven't seen where she preaches except to the choir.

Palin has done a lot of things very positive as Governor in Alaska that look, well, Democratic Party so to speak. And yea I know, if any Dem or Obama true believer said that, they would be tarred and feathered immediately.

Lee Ward[TypeKey Profile Page]:

Her opposition to sex ed concerns me, given the evidence within her own family of what Palin's view on sex ed results in.... preaching abstinence obviously doesn't work.

Paul Duffau:

Lee,

The separation of church and state were not embodied in the US Constitution but rather an invention of the Surpreme Court in 1878 in a direct attack on the LDS church practice of polygamy.

The original text was to provide protection of the various churches from government intervention by both limiting the scope of government power over the practices of religion (abused in the LDS case) and by eliminating favoritism (establishment) in religion.

Jay's post used the Bristol pregancy to demonstrate the values of religious individuals in Middle America. That you did not glean that from the article is indicative of your worldview and, as such, quite helpful to me. You see (or maybe you don't), there is a large swath of the country that is not reliably Republican but shares similar religious and personal values that Palin is demonstrating. Her pick does much more than lock in the base - it broadens it by reaching to those people, many of them women, in a way they understand even if Coastal Liberals (and I don't know if you are one but I was most recently from California so I use them as my metric) have difficulty in recognizing it.

And continueed sexism from the Left will not help with your own base. It's beginning to resemble the comment years ago: "What position do you see for women in your organization? Horizontal."

Sarah Palin is a new type of feminist who does not whine about the patriarchy. She goes out, meets it on her terms, and whips it. Women, many women, will respond to that.

I would recommend dropping terms like Veep'ette.

Larry:

Lee:

I have been doing some research on Obama and the Trinity Church including why he joined that one in the first place. I dunno which is worse, joining a nutcase church to advance your political agenda or joining one because you believe. The full time teaching of the Trinity Church is founded on the writings of a guy by the name of Dr. James Cone. Look the guy up, some of his theology is seriously bent, in my opinion.

Here is an example:

"Cone defines it as "complete emancipation of black people from white oppression by whatever means black people deem necessary." For Cone, the deeply racist structure of American society leaves blacks with no alternative but radical transformation or social withdrawal. So-called Christianity, as commonly practiced in the United States, is actually the racist Antichrist. "Theologically," Cone affirms, "Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man 'the devil.'" The false Christianity of the white-devil oppressor must be replaced by an authentic Christianity fully identified with the poor and oppressed.

And this is your blog. If I am saying to much, let me know and I will back off.

Larry:


Paul, the Federalist papers back you up. Nice post.

Lee, you said:

"Her opposition to sex ed concerns me, given the evidence within her own family of what Palin's view on sex ed results in.... preaching abstinence obviously doesn't work."

I understand your concern. And your point is well taken. You might insert 'always' between obviously and work. Passing out condoms at school doesn't work either. The pill and cultural changes associated with the pill and our evolution as a society with help from the media and Clinton and LBJ's great society, have all worked to encourage teen sex and the babies that result thereby.

Teen pregnancy is a complex issue not given to sound bite solutions.

Lee Ward[TypeKey Profile Page]:

"If I am saying to much, let me know and I will back off."

Opposing viewpoints with cites and quotes are always welcomed. The trolls who post comments like "Lee you're an idiot" get banned, but those who write "Lee you're an idiot because blah blah blah... backing it up with links and or quotes, are always welcomed here.

Interesting info re: Cone. But unless you can produce a document where Obama signed onto those views, I think you're being unfair attempting to paint Obama with those views.

I take Obama and his religion on the face value of his words and actions, and the choice of a church is a private matter. Suggesting Obama joined that church because he supports Cone's views is a smear unless you have some sort of proof tying the two things together.

That's Sarah Palin in the YouTube video above, not the founder of Sarah Palin's church, and that's her voice and her words.

Larry:

Thank you Lee:

From my research, Obama joined Trinity because he was reluctant to join one of the Churches he was organizing the members of as part of his assignment. And in Obama's words:

"But Obama admits part of Trinity's appeal was that it wasn't affiliated with DCP. "If I joined one of the churches I was already organizing, that might have caused some tensions," he said. "And part of it was there was an explicitly political aspect to the mission and message of Trinity at that time that I found appealing."

You can find this at:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0703300121mar30,0,7797542.story?page=3

Go back and read from page one. It is fascinating.

Based on a character assessment, I think two things: One, Obama may be a true believer in Christianity within the context of the Church he joined for reasons as stated and Two, because of the size of the Church and its influence in the local community, he had a pragmatic and political reason for so joining based on his own words.

And thank you for asking. I do my best to back up what I say with the facts unless I specifically state it is my opinion, which I have done several times here.

I believe in a healthy debate using facts, not insane rants. I have been told I ought to do my own blog, but I haven't a clue how to do it.

Paul Duffau:

Lee,

There some indications that Sarah Palin did not support an "abstinence-only" policy. I've been trying to locate an article from the AP's Matt Volz that seems to indicate that she was in favor of contraception if abstinence wasn't followed. Let you know if I have any luck.

If that is indeed her position, abstinence+, than it would be consistent with her Feminists for Life membership.

We'll see....

Lee Ward[TypeKey Profile Page]:

"I have been told I ought to do my own blog, but I haven't a clue how to do it."

email sent.


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