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At Least He Showed Up

You've got to give John McCain points for showing up at least.

The debate must have been a scary experience for John McCain -- he couldn't even look Barack Obama in the eyes for the vast majority of the debate. He must have been terrified. McCain is clearly more comfortable "fighting from a distance." Being in close proximity to "his enemy" makes him quite nervous.

CNN did an instant telephone poll tonight immediately following the debate - 524 debate-watching adults surveyed - margin of error +-4.5 points.

Question #1: Who did he best job in the debate?
51% Obama
38% McCain

Question #2: Who would better handle Iraq?
52% Obama
47% McCain

Question #3: Who would better handle the Economy?
58% Obama
37% McCain

A rock-solid victory for Obama overall. If foreign policy is John McCain's strongest area and he failed to excel in that area of the debate, clearly Obama comes out on top. The next debate will focus on the economy, and will play to Obama's strength.

Update: A CBS News poll confirms Obama's win:

CBS News and Knowledge Networks conducted a nationally representative poll of approximately 500 uncommitted voters reacting to the debate in the minutes after it happened.

Thirty-nine percent of uncommitted voters who watched the debate tonight thought Barack Obama was the winner. Twenty-five percent thought John McCain won. Thirty-six percent saw it as a draw.

Forty-six percent of uncommitted voters said their opinion of Obama got better tonight. Thirty-one percent said their opinion of McCain got better.

Sixty-six percent of uncommitted voters think Obama would make the right decisions about the economy. Forty-four percent think McCain would.

Forty-eight percent of these voters think Obama would make the right decisions about Iraq. Fifty-eight percent think McCain would.

We will have a full report on the poll later on. Uncommitted voters are those who don't yet know who they will vote for, or who have chosen a candidate but may still change their minds.

The margin of sampling error could be plus or minus 4 percentage points for results based on the entire sample.

There is still a long ways to go, and a lot can happen, but Obama's win in the debate tonight caps a dismal last few weeks for McCain. Given this debate loss, McCain definitely has a long row to hoe if he wants to win this election.

Update: MSNBC on McCain's childish eye contact games during last night's debate.


  • Mark Halperin at TIME grades the debate. McCain gets a B-, Obama gets an A-.
  • Joe Klein at TIME. "Obama did everything he had to do, with few if any mistakes. I thought McCain did less so."
  • Transcript of debate - link

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Comments (15)


Since when did cnn and other news channels become more biased than FOX. I find it quite humorous when Bill O'Reily of all people makes these clames.


My bad on the pelling maybe 1 to many tini's.


Thats funny, drudges poll has McCain posting a pretty solid win.

Lee Ward[TypeKey Profile Page]:

That is funny - because you're not referring to bona fide poll, you're referring to the poll of Drudge readers. The CNN and CBS poll were not web polls, but polls made of the general public.

Guess what, DailyKos has it as a landslide win for Obama. Wow, that's funny.


Actually, I was trying to make the same point - I should have spelled it out a little more clearly. I guess the real difference is that I sincerely doubt that the CNN or CBS polls are any less partisan than the drudge poll.

I expect that this debate will be like all the others in recent history, it will be well after the fact before anybody can sit down and say who won without a mountain of hate mail and denial from either side. I remember that everybody swore that Kerry won his debates also.

However, my opinion is that Obama lost. He lost Badly.

McCain simply savaged Obama on foreign policy. Obama was clearly on the ropes, weakly insisting that "no preconditions doesn't mean no preparation".

Anything he gained earlier in the night was lost right there as he tried to defend and redefine his earlier statements at the same time.

Todays revelation that Kissinger believes that he was misquoted by Obama on the subject wont help much either.

Still that didn't cost him the debate. He did well on the economic portion of the debate, not well enough to take the win, but he could've squeaked out a tie - Where he lost it was all over his face.

Obama's facial expressions when he wasn't answering, were hilarious. It sometimes looked like he was going to eat his own face off.

Not at all the picture of cool or competence. I watched on Fox so Im assuming they showed that on the other channels - did they? If they didn't show it on the other channels - I will downgrade my opinion to a tie with McCain having the slight edge.

Anybody that doesn't believe that looking presidential is important needs to go back and read about the 1960 Nixon - Kennedy debates.

Obama appeared frustrated and just a bit childish, and it will cost him.

I certainly have no doubt that many here will disagree - but I think long-term its gonna turn out just like I predict.

Lee Ward:

Reality has a nasty way of showing that republicans are wrong.

I just went to the Drudge Report website and "voted" in Drudge's "Poll".

I then scrolled down a little to the link on the right that says "REFRESH DRUDGE REPORT FOR LATEST..." and clicked it.

The page refreshed and I was given the option of voting again. And I did.

Some poll.

Naturally you're entitled to your opinion, Nightmare, but the "real polls" differ greatly with the poll of Drudge readers.

And there are no doubt folks who agree with you that Obama did poorly. You just wo'nt find as many of those folks as you will find others who think Obama won.

The proof is in the polling pudding which will come out 3-4 days from now. I predict a 2-3% bounce for Obama - how about you?


"The page refreshed and I was given the option of voting again. And I did."

Chicago style voting

Lee Ward[TypeKey Profile Page]:

lol - well, in this case it's "right wing blog style voting."

Comparing Drudge's web site poll with real opinion polls is a joke -- but not to folks like DJ Drummond who's been lying to the Wizbang readers for a solid week now trying to convince them to ignore public opinion polls that show McCain and Palin slipping.

So it should come as no surprise that Liberal Nightmare has a kool-aid mustache on his upper lip. Believing right wing bloggers' lies is much less painful than reality.


From the CNN web page -

The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey is not a measurement of the views of all Americans, since only people who watched the debate were questioned and the audience included more Democrats than Republicans.

From my own post -
Actually, I was trying to make the same point - I should have spelled it out a little more clearly. I guess the real difference is that I sincerely doubt that the CNN or CBS polls are any less partisan than the drudge poll.

Lee Ward[TypeKey Profile Page]:

Well yeah -- You have to have watched the debate in order to have an opinion as to who won it.

And CNN didn't ask for party affiliation, so we don't know the makeup of the people participating in the poll.

On the other hand, people who didn't even watch the debate can participate in the Drudge poll, and as I learned - they can vote more than once.

"I guess the real difference is that I sincerely doubt that the CNN or CBS polls are any less partisan than the drudge poll."

No wonder you have nightmares, and nightmares about liberals at that.


I guess I watched a different debate than LiberalNitemare; one in which Obama seemed relaxed, with a far greater command of and insight into virtually every issue brought up, standing in stark contrast to a sullen, almost paranoid looking McCain, who refused to even glance in the direction of his opponent. Obama seemed to have a much easier time backing up what he said with his philosophical and anaylitical reasoning behind the statements. Obama looked like the future and McCain looked like an old, tired political hack left over from the 20th century.

Lee Ward[TypeKey Profile Page]:

bnorm's comment is typical of the right wing looney birds.

They happily point to polls when they like the results they see:

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows the beginning of John McCain's convention bounce and the race is essentially back where it was before Barack Obama's bounce.

But when polls show that their candidate is failing then suddenly polls "are worth as much as a flaming bag of crap"

No wonder so many Republican politicians lie --- they reflect the integrity of their supporters.

"Oh, Daily Kos. There is the paragon of objectivity. "

Exactly my point - a DailyKos poll is as worthless as a Drudge reports poll.

P Saint:

I thought McClain answered the questions with poise and knowledge. Sometimes it was very obvious Obama felt challanged and became arguementive. Obama was not respectful to his opponent as he continually called him John all the while, McClain continued to call Obama "Senator Obama". I don't think Obama has, for whatever reasons, respect for others, our great country and our way of life as Americans.....He scares me.


John McCain=war! He was born to the military, went to military school, spent 26 years in the military and war has been the purpose of his entire life. With McCain as president we will never be free of war.

Lee Ward[TypeKey Profile Page]:

"Lee, stop the crap. I never cited polls to try and prove a point, because I think they are useless. "

And how often do you go on conservative blogs that support your political views and tell them their use of polls is wrong because polls are "flaming bags of crap"?

My guess is never -- but feel free to lie and say you do. My guess is that you feel polls are "flaming bags of crap" only when they support liberal views... or at least, you only bother to say they are "flaming bags of crap" when they support liberal views.


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