Lee,
What's your problem with raising associations of the people running for high office (Either side's associations)?
Does "hanging around" with Rezko show good judgement (I didn't know he was a slum lord destroying my people's neighborhoods)? Does "hanging around" with a minister that preaches vile hatred of the USA show good judgement (The minister that even Ophra left because of this)? Does "hanging around" with Ayers show good judgement (who is quoted RECENTLY as saying he wished he had "done more" in his bombing and destruction of American Institutions)? Back to the minister: Recall that the minister's church magazine praised that great American patriot, Louis Farrakan. Does using the Saul Alinsky playbook show good jucgement?
Lee, I consider these associations major problems, and a foretelling of his thought processes. If he DID realize what these associations represent, then he is dangerous (IMHO) because he agrees with them. If he did NOT realize what these associations represent, then he is MORE dangerous because he is "as dumb as a rock"
Note these are CURRENT associations. I am sure you will find current McCain/Palin associations to counter mine, but just one more question to you: Do these Obama associations bother you, at least a small bit?
(This time I'm trying to be civil. It is difficult, but I am trying)

I don't have any problem with playing these games CKG - didn't you see the update at the bottom of my post? or Paul's post on the anti-Obama racists?

Lock and load, baby. My best game is playing in the mud.

Game on!

LEE,
The question was "DO THESE ASSOCIATIONS BOTHER YOU, AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT?

I've looked into all of those associations in depth, and once you see what's behind the allegations and smears it's easy to see that there is nothing there.

But John McCain wasn't 8 years old when he boarded that boat in the second video clip above -- that was August 28, 2006. Look at the people John McCain pals around with on his 70th birthday. A con man!

- Conspiracy to commit wire fraud

- 8 counts of wire fraud

- 5 counts of money laundering

McCain campaign manager Rick Davis is the McCain connection to this sleezy slimeball.

Much more ahead, codekey - stay tuned, and stay civil!

Didn't we know that McCain is a racist? Who has use the term "Gook", a term which demeams all Asians, and is akin to the "N" word. How many times did vote againist MLK day in AZ (He started at the age of 50). Also who didn't show before a PBS debate which was largely a African-American audience.

That "8 years old" excuse is so lame. How does that make the association any cleaner? If it happened when he was 8 years old,he has had plenty of time to know exactly who Ayers is and why he should avoid him. Apparently he found reasons to do the opposite for many years.
I don't know as the Italian boy is a good comparison. It was two years ago that McCain met him and just recently this year that Raph was found guilty of anything. So as far as anyone knows McCain had no idea the guy was anything but what he said he was. The video refers to a party so maybe there was more people there than just the four of them. He met him once.
Rezko and Obama met back in 1990 and have been buddies ever since. Thats a long association with someone who turned out to be a crook. Specially since the deals that went between them.
I tried checking out this USCWF,but other than the Iran/contra stuff didn't see much. Maybe you have some links to it. I couldn't find a whole lot.

"That "8 years old" excuse is so lame. How does that make the association any cleaner?"

At the time Ayers was a breaking the law Obama was 8 years old.

To associate Barack Obama with the criminal acts of William Ayers you have to establish the proximity between the two.

The fact that Ayers endorsed Obama's career doesn't establish an association - it's just an endorsement.

The entire time Obama has known him Ayers has been an upright, law abiding citizen.

"Rezko and Obama met back in 1990 and have been buddies ever since."

Total right wing bullshit. That's a flat-out bald-faced life and you know it/ "buddies ever since" - bullshit. Total Republican talking out of your ass bullshit.

It's a cheap political smear that's meaningless - except to the extent it points out John McCain's desperate panic. 30 days to go and John McCain is swinging wildly from one tactic to another.

Drop everything, suspend his campaign, etc. etc... this guy is full of drama, but lacks viable solutions for everyday Americans.

NO SOLUTION to the ground war in Iraq but to do more of the same as George Bush.

NO SOLUTION to the economic crisis except to parrot George Bush's position.

NO SOLUTION to the health care question except to tax the hell out of everyday Americans and expect them to make up the difference.

NO SOLUTION to the fact that 20 million fewer Americans would have health insurance under John McCain.

"I tried checking out this USCWF..."

Learn to use Google or check back for later posts.

This dude that Obama was associated was acquitted. It's not a one of you here posting that would want your name mentioned in "anything" if you have been found not guilty. Palin's point at this time of economic crisis is baseless and pointless. Obama, McCain, Palin, & Biden are all imperfect (including you and I as well) What about now? Who can help America NOW?

I met a woman today raving about Obama raising taxes. I asked her where had she heard him say that? She said that McCain said it. I smiled. Then I went on to have as warm of a conversation as I could with her. She went on about the war in Iraq, health care, and various other ills of this country. Then she asked me about what I thought. I told her that when I was very young my parents told me that if you make a mistake, admit it, and correct the problem. I told her that we found no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. We should have packed up right then and left; no questions asked. She said "But we have to win there!" What does that mean? What does a "win" in Iraq look like? The Iraqi people may not want Democracy. That may not want "our" laws. They may not want anything to do with Americans or our Ideals period. Why force them? Isn't taken one country enough? I just want to know how much is "enough"? Greed has gotten us into a real bind right now. Again, some people are out of touch and do not get it. For eight years. Most of the poor have not paid taxes. The very rich paid very little, and everyone else in the middle class footed the bill. It's time. If you have not previously paid your fair share, here's your chance to do your patriotic and American duties. Pay what everyone else has. It's just that simple. Put your greed aside. Let's leave Iraq. There is no good reason to be there. It's not ours.

We got on the subject of illegal immigration. Her last name is Swartz. I reminded her that she too is an Immigrant, and explained the process that has allowed her to be her and whom made those laws. No one ask the millions pouring through Ellis Island to be here; not even today. They came here with the idea to have a better life. Not that "they" are here, "they" don't think that anyone else should have the same rights. Greed.

Then we got into the fact that McCain has served his country patriotically. He has. He also voted against a recent VA Bill that would help veterans returning from the current wars education benefits; but willing to continue the 10 Billion Dollar MONTHLY cost of Iraq. I am a disabled veteran denied education benefits twice. I am a student at Guilford College, Greensboro, NC.

Then - she went on and on about everything. I soon realized that she was dead set on McCain being her savior in this election. I respect that. I also understand that most of her problem started about 25 years ago, and could have been corrected a long time ago. N I am considerably younger than she, but my problems began long before that.

If you do not get anything out of this election season, know that well all need to get along and respect "each other". Whining, complaining and name calling want fix Wall Street, Our Health Care Systems, hatred, and other social ills. It's time to grow up. Seriously.

We went into Iraq for one reason, and oen reason only, OIL, The US made the rest of the world dependant on oil wen they first used it to replace their monetary system. In the 70's they ran out. They spent the rest of it on funding wars to obtain more oil, to keep their vast economy chugging along. That was that blip you may rememeber, of long queues, wdespread panic and that economical crisis. ring a bell?

That's where the Saudi's came in, and rescued us. Hence why Bush is still very good friends with them (but that's ok-they're the good kind).

Problem is now the rest of the world i.e: Middle East, is running out of not just oil, but most things that we've used oil to dig for quicker.

Silly excuses are being thrown around in order to kill thousands, even millions of people. And still the economy is buggerered and oil costs are ridiculous. When really its a continuous war for the last drams of money/oil.

Atleast your media isn't telling you about it. As news arrives here inLondon, of how you've managed to kill another family in Palestine ...(yes, Palestine?!?!)...my friend in L.A tells me your news just said,, "oh, that's not true....oh but wait, maybe it is, i think they didn't oppose the Taliban?...yes that sounds logical" People in a country miles and miles away were killed because of their indifference to someone your political leaders tell you to dislike?

When you ask yourself why people like McCain, Palin, Bush & Cheney suceed. it's purely because your nation has officially been the laughing stock of the world for quite some time now, and they make appropiate representatives.

Lee,

Ayers is twisted. Someone who has idea it is okay to go blow up innocent people and government buildings. No one is trying to say Obama had anything to do with it. That would be coming down to your level. What people are worried about with the association is that Obama felt that in his judgement that it was okay. Ayers should be in jail,but got off on a technicality.He should at least be shunned by everyone as a known domestic terrorist. It is absolutely tragic that he is allowed to teach anything.
When you say Ayers has been "an upright,law abiding citizen" you should really be saying "an upright,law abiding,unrepentant domestic terrorist". In the future,I doubt people would be happy with a presidential candidate who had an association with Osama Bin Laden just because 9/11 happened when they were 8yrs old and Osama had been a good boy ever since then.

Obama and Rezko have been friends since 1990, and Obama said the Wilmette businessman raised as much as $60,000 for him during his political career. After Rezko's indictment, Obama donated $11,500 to charity--a total that represents what Rezko contributed to the senator's federal campaign fund. - from the Sun Times Chicago 2006

I have probably had lunch with Rezko once or twice a year and our spouses may have gotten together on two to four occasions in the time that I have known him. I last spoke with Tony Rezko more than six months ago.- Sun Times Chicago 2006

What little I have found on USCWF is their involvement with the Iran/Contra affair. Everything else seems to be blamed on WACL.

"No one is trying to say Obama had anything to do with it. That would be coming down to your level. What people are worried about with the association is that Obama felt that in his judgement that it was okay."

Obama felt it was OK to kill people?

And you talk about coming down to my level - lol!

You're full of shit. It's just that simple.

Lee,

I'm going to make this as simple as possible, and I want you to try to let go of the CNN, Larry King, Angry Left for just a few short seconds.

When Barack Obama says ON HIS OWN that he regrets associating with William Ayers
OR
that he will NOT consider William Ayers for any federal appointed position
then I will let this "association" go.

Until then, he was raised and trained by a home-grown terrorist. And he STILL likely accepts advice from time to time from this HOME-GROWN TERRORIST.

Have you people not even looked at Bill Ayers' website? He's disturbed. You wouldn't see the end of it if McCain had his first campaign party in Ted Kaczynski's living room.

Ayers is a professor at a major university. Of course he's a home grown terrorist bent on the destruction of our country -- all of those university types are determined to destroy our country... every red-blooded citizen knows that.