Poor babies. Republican bloggers just can't get a break these days. Their candidate lost the last and final presidential debate, receiving a sound thumping from Obama last night, but the embarrassment doesn't stop there. It turns out the new right wing poster child is just another right wing faux controversy, as transparent as the rest of the lies they're telling these days.
Some interesting facts (which still need to be verified) about Joe the Plumber are starting to surface:
Joe the Plumber isn't registered to vote.
Joe the Plumber doesn't make $250,000. Not only will Joe the Plumber not see his taxes rise under the Obama tax plan, he'll get a tax cut.
Joe the Plumber's Dad is a big-time Republican donor.
Update: Joe the Plumber isn't licensed. He says he doesn't need a license since he works for a residential plumbing contractor who is licensed.
So when Joe was talking this morning about the new jobs that he hopes come in a result of his new found celebrity status, he was talking about working without a license?
I can't help but wonder if Joe "freelances", as many tradespeople do, and perhaps even gets paid under the table. Since he doesn't have a license, it doesn't sound like he's all that serious about establishing his own business.
McCain in last night's debate: "Joe, you're rich, congratulations!" McCain complains that Obama wants to raise the taxes for Joe the Plumber, but Joe the Plumber makes far less than the $250,000 that would put him in a higher tax bracket under the Obama plan. Joe the Plumber will actually get a tax cut under Obama's plan. Priceless!
So you're not rich yet, Joe, but you'll be doing a lot better under Obama's tax plan than you will under McCain's...
And Joe the Plumber won't be fined for Health Care as McCain
lied stated in last night's debate after all. Ouch!
When McCain was railing about how unfair Obama's tax plan was to "Joe the Plumber" it was just more Republican bullshit. What a surprise.
Here's the full context of the Joe the Plumber and Barack Obama's "spread the wealth" exchange:
Lorie Byrd at our sister site Wizbang is busily shrieking (my, my she's so angry these days) about "liberal talking points" surrounding the lies the right wing is telling about Joe the Plumber.
Let's look at what John McBush said last night, direct quotes from the debate:
McCain: And I will not have -- I will not stand for a tax increase on small business income. Fifty percent of small business income taxes are paid by small businesses. That's 16 million jobs in America. And what you want to do to Joe the plumber and millions more like him is have their taxes increased and not be able to realize the American dream of owning their own business.
FACT: Joe the Plumber admitted this morning that he makes a whole lot less than $250,000. So, in fact. Joe the Plumber will not have his taxes increased.
And let's pause here to look at something else McBush said:
You were going to put him in a higher tax bracket which was going to increase his taxes, which was going to cause him not to be able to employ people, which Joe was trying to realize the American dream.
FACT:: The tax rate is currently 36 percent and would increase to 39 percent uner Obama's tax plan.
At 36 percent Joe can buy the business and realize the American Dream,but at 39 percent poor old Joe is going to be denied the American dream and will not be able to employ people.
Bullshit. More right wing lying bullshit.
But wait, there's more...
McBush's next lie:
McCain: Now, my old buddy, Joe, Joe the plumber, is out there. Now, Joe, Sen. Obama's plan, if you're a small business and you are able -- and your -- the guy that sells to you will not have his capital gains tax increase, which Sen. Obama wants, if you're out there, my friend, and you've got employees, and you've got kids, if you don't get -- adopt the health care plan that Sen. Obama mandates, he's going to fine you.
FACT: Under Obama's health care plan small business are exempted from the type of penalties McBush is describing, and he knows that. This has come up before. McCain is just plain lying...
Ms. Byrd proceeds to call liberal bloggers who are exposing these right wing lies as "idiots. Tsk tsk, Lorie - telling the truth and standing up to the right wing liars is a patriotic move, and you stooping to these kinds of lies and attacks is so -- well, Republican of you.
Haven't you noticed that America is tired of you angry white folks yelling about terrorists and socialism?
Haven't you noticed the hundreds of press reports exposing the lies behind John McCain's attack ads?
Do you really think these kind of angry, angry outbursts are productive?
One theory is that the Republicans are trying to get their base so fired up that they will actually show up and vote on November 4, so you can expect angry outbursts like this to continue. All they are doing is insuring that more and more independents move over to Obama in my view.
And The New York Times exposes more of McCain's lying ways in last night's debate:
So will Americans who are in business for themselves have to pay more taxes if Mr. Obama is elected, as Mr. McCain asserted?
According to figures compiled by the Small Business Administration, there are fewer than six million small businesses that actually have payrolls. The rest are so-called nonemployer firms that report income from hobbies or freelance work done by their registered owners, earning as little as $1,000 a year.
Of these, according to a calculation by the independent, non-partisan Tax Policy Center, fewer than 700,000 taxpayers would have to pay higher taxes under Mr. Obama's plan. But even some of these are not small-business owners in the traditional sense; they include lawyers, accountants and investors in real estate, all of them with incomes that put them in the top tax brackets.
So are there "millions more like Joe the Plumber," as Mr. McCain contended? Probably not. Mr. Obama may well have been correct when he stated that "98 percent of small businesses make less than $250,000."
So the angry John McCain bellows about "millions more" and the actual number is somewhere under 700,000, many of whom are lawyers probably making lots more than $250,000, and who probably don't employ anyone else, working instead as sole practitioners.
Reality catches up the right wing liars again...
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