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Breaking News: Obama Assassination Plot Thwarted

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Law enforcement agents have broken up a plot by two neo-Nazi skinheads to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 88 black people, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives said Monday.

In court records unsealed Monday in U.S. District Court in Jackson, Tenn., federal agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target a predominantly African-American high school in a murder spree that was to begin in Tennessee. Agents said the skinheads did not identify the school by name.

Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of ATF's Nashville field office, said the two men planned to kill 88 people, including 14 African-Americans by beheading. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

The men also sought to go on a national killing spree after the Tennessee murders, with Obama as its final target, Cavanaugh told The Associated Press.

"They said that would be their last, final act -- that they would attempt to kill Sen. Obama," Cavanaugh said. "They didn't believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying."

An Obama spokeswoman traveling with the senator in Pennsylvania had no immediate comment.

The men, Daniel Cowart, 20, of Bells, Tenn., and Paul Schlesselman 18, of Helena-West Helena, Ark., are being held without bond. Agents seized a rifle, a sawed-off shotgun and three pistols from the men when they were arrested. Authorities alleged the two men were preparing to break into a gun shop to steal more.

The two men were arrested Oct. 22 by the Crockett County, Tenn., Sheriff's Office. "Once we arrested the defendants and suspected they had violated federal law, we immediately contacted federal authorities," said Crockett County Sheriff Troy Klyce.

Racism is alive and well, and McCain and Palin have been fanning the flames for weeks now. It's not surprising that this was being planned. After the weeks and weeks of hate-mongering from the right, with repeated Republican attacks on Obama using code words and other means to incite racists coming right off the stage at Palin and McCain rallies, I'd be surprised if this was the only plot underway.


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Kev:

WOW, Lee, you've surpassed yourself in terms of ignorant comments ("Racism is alive and well, and McCain and Palin have been fanning the flames for weeks now...") I shouldn't be surprised you're one of those "code word" people. Yes, racism is alive and well, and it's a damned shame! There is NO NEED of this crap. But to blame McCain and Palin?!?!? Blaming Republicans?? My GOD, Lee, the would-be assassins were skinheads!!! I hate to break this to you, but Republicans are NOT TO BLAME for all evils in the world!!

Lee Ward[TypeKey Profile Page]:

Palin and McCain, but especially Palin, has been pushing these buttons for weeks now.

He's not one of us.. he's not like us...

Look up the the history of labeling people as "terrorists", Kev. It's racist, plain and simple.

Racist talk incites racist actions. Palin and McCain have been banging this drum steadily for weeks.

Or perhaps you're going to tell me these skinheads were Obama voters?

lskdjflsdj:

This is ridiculous. CODE WORDS ? wow. Obama is a socialist. We don't need him running our country. & to say that calling someone a terrorist is racist ? - WELL, what would you call the men who crashed the planes into the world trade center ? not terrorists..cause that's mean. :/ You are extremely ignorant.. think before you talk next time.

Lee Ward:

I suggested you look up the racist history of the use "terrorists, lskdjflsdj (assuming that's your real name)" but noooo...

I don't know what rabbit hole you've been hiding but there's been talk all over the internet and in the news about the racist code words being used by the Palin/McCain campaign.

Lots of folks have been warning that the hate mongering on the right was going to lead to violence -and here we have a plot to kill over a hundred of "them".... you know "those people" like "That One"...

RoadWarriorPrincess:

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at lskdjflsdj's comment. He/she eschews "code words" and throws out "socialist" in the same sentence. Talk about your code words!
I wonder how many people actually know the meaning of "socialist"? I've been asking around the country (I travel a lot in my job) and about 9 in 10 people think it's either the same or almost the same as communist. The bliss of ignorance...
I can't call the Bush...er, McCain/Palin campaign responsible for the skinhead's plot, but I must agree the the Republicans HAVE been fanning the flames with their comments and their "I didn't hear anything" response to supporters' yelling "kill him" about Obama at a rally. It's called complicity, and Lee is correct in siting a correlation.

fomsc:

Only a moron would mistake what the McCain / Palin says as hate speech. Anybody with one eye and 1/2 a brain can plainly see that skin heads just don't like black people or Jews they don't need anybody to sell them on being stupid they do just fine all by themselves.

Heralder:
"Palin and McCain, but especially Palin, has been pushing these buttons for weeks now.

He's not one of us.. he's not like us..."

Hello, Lee Ward.


Actually, Obama himself has been saying these things:

Barack Obama In Springfield, Missouri: "So nobody really thinks that Bush or McCain have a real answer for the challenges we face, so what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me. You know, he's not patriotic enough. He's got a funny name. You know, he doesn't look like all those other Presidents on those dollar bills, you know. He's risky. That's essentially the argument they're making." (Barack Obama, Remarks, Springfield, MO, 7/30/08)

And that was in relation to what? Running against the man. He's pulling the race card plain and simple, and his supporters are going right along with it.

What exactly was it McCain said that was racist, that was inflammatory, that went and made skinheads do what they do anyway (besides being wastes of skin and air).

I do recall the McCain campaign's response to Obama's above monologue:

"Barack Obama has played the race card, and he played it from the bottom of the deck. It's divisive, negative, shameful and wrong."

Now, with Obama's twenty years of church-going with the notably racist Reverend Wright, his ties to a known (and white, hello) radical Bill Ayers, and his little Jew bashing party with his freidns in the Gaza strip, it's somewhat difficult for you to make me beleive McCain and Palin were fanning flames.

Your blame is terribly misplaced.

Now of course if you'd like to prove me wrong by quoting McCain or Palin saying racist things and fanning flames, I'd love to be enlightened to what I've missed.

Allen:

To be completely honest about this, no you cannot say all Republicans are behind this. But it is a proven fact, listen to McCain and the wicked witch's speeches. They have encouraged hate towards Obama.

Kev, and Jo, seeing your back, why don't you answer the questions I asked you? I'm not the only one who sees through the BS you put out.

And when it comes to "skinheads", they normally are ID with the GOP and the GOP BS of "family values", that Kev can't/won't tell anyone what those values are.

And calling Obama a socialist is a laugh, look what President Bush has done, spread the wealth upwards. Obama plans to spread the wealth downwards. So their both socialists, right. Glad we got that matter cleared up.

And the civil war was not fought explicitly over slavery. It was fought over the right of farmers selling their cotton overseas for more money than the damn Yankees wanted/or would pay for the bale of cotton. Read some History before you spout BS talking points. Yes, slavery was a minor part of the civil war, and blacks fought for both sides.

From several posts here, it makes me wonder where these trolls, went to school/or didn't. Educate yourself, go to the library, read some books on American History, then read some more on politics in America. Maybe then you might get a clue that the party line BS is just that BS. NONE OF THEM TELL THE TRUTH.

And yes, we need McCain to be elected! That way we can have at least 4 more years of recession/depression, more looting of the taxpayers dollars.

Then when it hits almost every American except the top 2% of this country, you will not be able to blame the Demo's for it. Because it will all be on McCain's watch. And how are we, the taxpayers going to pay for this debt?

And KEV, let's hear your answers on my question about "family values." Do you include Senator Stevens as part of the family values. Or Senator Craig (toe tapper), the "Duke" Cunningham, Mark Foley, and good old pill popper Rush Limpdick?

Heralder:
And when it comes to "skinheads", they normally are ID with the GOP and the GOP BS of "family values", that Kev can't/won't tell anyone what those values are.

Actually, is there some skinhead manifesto you have access to, or is this just your opinion that we're supposed to trust you with, Allen?

And since when, did people independently identifying with a set of values intriniscally damn those values? Which GOP values do skinheads indentify with? Was it the GOP value of 'hate everyone who is not white?' Oh yes, I remember that value.

You're stretching quite a bit to try to pin the proposed actions of a bunch of horrible people on the GOP. Since Obama apparently identifies with Reverend Wright's racist, America-hating values, can I go ahead an evicerate him over this and call him an America-hating racist? Why, by your standards I can.

Your argument is a double-edged sword that, sorry to say, your are not gripping by the hilt.

Allen:

Heralder, the GOP has tried to tie Obama as a terrorist because of Ayers. Ok, I can live with that. Now how about McCain and the ties he has with G.Gordon Libby?

By your so called double-edged sword, that would also make McCain a terrorist, right? And I let go of the hilt when I stuck it into a troll, don't need it anymore, right?

Erick:

Lee, you certainly would be in favor of 'hate speech' laws wouldn't you -- that way, you can SILENCE political discourse opposite of your view, by claiming it is HATE speech and inciting violence.....

...ridiculous.

MunDane:

Allen

Just for the record now, your moral equivalence says burglary is equal to bombing and killing people?

Yes, Liddy had some really hair-brained ideas about embarrassing/harassing Democrats. Just like Ayers had some hair-brained ideas of putting 25 million Americans into re-education/concentration/extermination camps because they might not appreciate the New Socialism.

Hey but at least McCain admits he knows the guy associated with him, instead of some vague manure about "I was eight years old..."

Totally the same...

Heralder:

Allen, read up on Ayers, read up on Wright, and then try to tell me about values and 'mentors' and grouping people together.

I'm not even attmepting to make this into a derogatory post about Obama, I'm telling you that if you want to take a few racists or bad people and lump them into the McCain/Palin campaign, you better be prepared to do that with Obama, which would make him a racist, America-hating terrorist. And I really don't think you want to do that.

As for everything else, MunDane handled it in his post.

The really fortunate, and very strange story is that the only presidents that died in office were every president elected in an year ending with an "0" from 1840 to 1960, strangely connected to an Indian curse from a witch doctor due to the military activity of President William Harrison.

"Tecumseh's curse" was a bizarre supernatural curse put on the American presidency in response to the slaughter of many Indian tribes by American military General William Harrison who was elected president in 1840. Incidentally, when the Pilgrim's first settled America, there were an estimated 9 million Indian tribe members in America. However, by 1910, just 100,000 Indians survived due to wars and genocidal plans such as spreading smallpox by the American military and government. The American government actively planned the total destruction of all Indian tribes, although many were entirely peaceful such as the Navajo tribes. These American genocidal to eliminate the Indian tribes of America plans actually caused more human deaths than Hitler of the European Jews in WWII.

Elected in 1840, Harrison gave a long winded inauguration address in which he didn't wear a hat on a cold January day, and caught an awful cold, and died in April of pneumonia.

In 1860, popular President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by Southern actor John Wilkes Booth at Ford's Theatre in 1865.

Elected in 1880, President James Garfield was assassinated in 1881.

Elected in 1900, President William McKinley was assassinated in 1901.

Elected in 1920, President Warren Harding died from food poisoning in 1923.

Re-elected in 1940, popular President Franklin Roosevelt died in office in 1945 of a stroke.

Elected in 1960, President John Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas in 1963.

Elected in 1980, President Ronald Reagan was seriously wounded in a March 1981 assassination attempt by a mentally ill man, but survived.

Elected in 2000, President George Bush faced no serious threats to his life from either violence or health concerns, yet the controversial 2000 election strangely denied the popular vote winner Al Gore of the presidency. The election was real flawed, but no life threats of any type involved either man.

It would appear that the curse on the American presidency may be broken now and that no presidents will face any serious threats compared to the long run of deaths from 1840 to 1960. In fact, every death in office was with one of these presidents and every assassination was during these years as well.

All of this speaks well that the next president should be completely safe with good security measures as are currently practiced. And a president like Obama, at the young age of 47 is highly unlikely to experience older age related health issues such as an older man like a John McCain might face where many Americans never make it to live to be 80 years old.

All of this strongly suggests that the next president, very likely Mr. Obama will be completely safe in office, and no screwball will succeed to threaten him. The long curse of Tecumseh looks to be broken.

Tecumseh's Curse, strange but true?

Heralder:

Paul,

I'm voting against Obama. If he wins, I do hope that he will serve his term safely regardless.

Bill W.:

HI TYREE,

I need to take this opportunity to educate you just a little bit--okay, a lot. You state here: "Well, Senator Obama does have a history of saying the USA is like Nazi Germany."

Let's examine the documented facts, shall we?In the context of discussing the U.S. in the early 1950's--the time of the landmrk Brown vs. the Board of Education decision--Obama said the following, verbatim: "...just to take sort of a realist perspective...there's a lot of change [then] going on outside of the Court that judges essentially had to take judicial notice of. I mean you've got World War II, you've got the doctrines of Nazism that we are fighting against, that start looking uncomfortably similar to what we have going on back here at home."

Okay, so let's think about what he said for a minute. You indeed have documented instances in the 1940's in which returning African-American GI's actually discover that NAZI POWS HELD CAPTIVE IN THE U.S. ARE WELCOME IN RESTAURANTS WHERE BLACK AMERICANS AREN'T. You might excuse the Black GI's for wondering, "Hey, aren't these the guys I just fought in Europe? The ones who were trying to kill me and other Americans? Why can they get service in this restaurant when I can't?"

Then you've got the whole history in the '50's and '60's of lynchings, church bombings, beatings, police dogs, fire-hosings, etc. And oh yes, there were the occasional murders too--of Emmett Till, of Civil Rights workers, of Dr. King, of Medgar Evers, etc. In other words, you had certain governmental agencies within the U.S. crushing free speech and human rights with violence, terror and death. Which is PRECISELY what the Nazis did in their own country and elsewhere, yes?

Are you simply too young to remember all of this personally? Or are you just too thick to remember it from the U.S. History courses you took when you were, hopefully, "educated?"

My guess it's the latter, because you then go on to say, "The Republicans are not racist, we freed the slaves, while the Democrats fought a bloody Civil War to keep theirs."

Oh please, tyree. That would be laughable if it weren't so painfully ignorant. To compare the political parties and their platforms of 145 years ago to those of today is simply, well, stupid. The ensuing years have seen the Republican party in general adopt the so-called "Southern Strategy" appealing to the die-hard vestiges of unreconstructed Confederates, to include those of the racist wingbat variety. Every Republican elected at least since the time of Nixon has mobilized that base. Your failure to know and understand that is appalling, and indicative of abject ignorance of historical fact and present reality.

In short, please continue your education and/or get your facts straight lest you once again embarrass yourself by posting such ignorant tripe in a forum that's hopefully reserved for educated adults.

Sincerely,

Bill W.


Allen:

Bill W. If only tyree would visit a library and use the books there. However, since Kim, Jo, and Kev refuse to answer, maybe tyree will--Just what "family values" do the GOP support?

I'm sure a whole bunch of people would love to know what that BS SLOGAN means. Care to speak up?

Heralder, the real positive sign is that since the only presidents that died in office all were ones elected in years ending with an "0" and tied to this Indian curse. This means that both Obama or McCain should be fine for four years. However, McCain has put out signals before that he would only serve one term in office.

This self-imposed one term rule, would mean not enough time to really enact a real McCain agenda. Further, McCain would be really advancing in age, making the possibility of Sarah Palin as president more likely. This raises questions about her qualifications or leadership skills. For a young senator, Obama has at least an excellent ability to delegate responsibility to the right persons to get a job done. This includes work on the economy.

Further if McCain only wants one term, then is that for his ego or due to his age?

In some ways the Republican Party reminds me of the old Soviet Poliburu where the oldest living party leaders become their leaders only because it's considered to be their turn, and not because of any real ability. I think of Reagan, Dole and now McCain, where the oldest candidates always get their turn to lead the party.

Heralder, you have to use your own judgment on who to vote for. Like every voter it's your own call on who is best.

I personally don't consider that I'm voting "for" or "against" any candidate, just for the better candidate for the office when I vote, myself.

Heraulder:

Paul,

It's really a use of semantics on my part. By voting for one I'm voting against the other because I cannot vote for both. But yes, I could have easily said I'm voting FOR McCain, so I'll ammend my remark to that as it's truer to how I feel.

I think we disagree heavily on the experience to lead between the candidates. I feel even Sarah Palin is more fit to lead then the actual Presidential candidate Barack Obama. But that is my opinion. Not really what this thread is about, so maybe we can place our points in another thread more suited for it when the time comes :)

Carlos:

Apparently Tyree like many other Americans are so ignorant and one track minded individuals that don't really understand racism, politics and social differences.
If you are going to look at issues through a very narrow scope, well....you already tell me all about you. That is the exact problem with some of this Americans that can't educated themselves and come to terms with their hearts and accept that in our United States of America there are many people of different backgrounds, religions, colors and cultures. Most of them Love America and are willing to make a difference to make it better. Unfortunately, they are the group that always looks to the gutter to try to come out with reasons to not better Our America. Does having a conversation or a drink or a meeting with others make me like them?
Does attending church makes me a Christian? Does walking into a bar makes me an alcoholic?
Thank you Mr. Bill W. for educating all of us.
I don't know all facts and I don't have all knowledge of every issue, but I'm willing to learn and apply that knowledge so that I may be a better citizen.
May God bless America and may He enlighten those that walk in darkness.


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