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Statistics From National Counterterrorism Center(NCTC) Only Prove The Huge Growth Of Global Terrorism During Bush/Cheney Years

One fact that you certainly won't hear from all the Dick Cheney nonsense in his deceptive "national security" claims is that according to the National Counterterrorism Center(NCTC) is that terrorism actually grew by fantastic percentages of growth worldwide during the Bush years from the previous Clinton years. Dick Cheney is making his administration into some sort of phony champion on the terrorism issue, while the terrorism problem worldwide, not just in Iraq, grew by huge numbers, especially during 2004 to 2005 period. BushBubblePNG.png

The fact of the matter if the Bush and Cheney anti-terrorism efforts really worked globally after 9/11, then why did the problem continue to only dramatically grow and worsen. Cheney wants Americans to center on the false perception of no more attacks on American soil since 9/11, when many regions of the world actually logged greatly increased and numerous incidents since 9/11 that only worsened and grew in many regions of the world. The fact is that there were actually logged 15 incidents of terrorism on American soil just between February 2004 and December 2008, including a fatal bombing incident at a Woodburn bank that I once before identified as an act of domestic terrorism here at Wizbang Blue.

The fact of the matter is that many incidents that are merely passed off as some crime story are actually taken seriously by the NCTC as incidents of domestic terrorism. A March 3, 2006 incident was blamed on an Islamic extremist that wounded nine in Chapel Hill, NC for example. Anarchists or environmental or other extremists have found responsible in some other incidents, while some other incidents are still under active investigation. But the fact of the matter is that it is just plain false if Dick Cheney wants you to believe that no acts of domestic terrorism took place since 9/11. Fortunately domestic acts of terrorism have mostly damaged property and not took too many lives, however 2 persons have been killed since 9/11 on American soil and 15 more wounded.

Mr. Cheney never made the United States nearly as safe as he would like to mislead many to believe. Mr. Cheney isn't dealing in facts here. It's pure political nonsense. Cheney would like you to believe that he was far more powerful and effective of a leader than he actually was. But like the fearsome Wizard Of Oz, it's all a show. The reality is about the worse that Cheney could do to you is to rap you with his cane or drive over your foot with his wheelchair.Cheney-Wheelchair.jpg

Mr. Cheney received several educational draft deferments during the Vietnam War to avoid military service. Yet he talks like some tough super-soldier. There was a clear record of increased terrorist incidents both in the U.S. and globally. Yet Cheney brags of some success record that isn't supported by the facts. This Memorial day weekend is for the real soldiers. the real defenders of national security. Not the frauds like Cheney.


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Comments (10)

Doubting Thomas:

So - best just bend over and spread 'em, Paul? Give in to every demand, never actually FIGHT terrorists or terrorism... and then the numbers go down to an 'acceptable' level?

BTW, you didn't include a linky to this NCTC group.

By the way, you remember this song?

Daddy was a cop
On the East Side of Chicago
Back in the USA
Back in the bad old days

In the heat of a summer night
In the land of the dollar bill
When the town of Chicago died
And they talk about it still

When a man named Al Capone
Tried to make that town his own
And he called his gang to war
Against the forces of the law

I heard my momma cry
I heard her pray the night Chicago died
Brother, what a night it really was
Brother, what a fight it really was
Glory be

I heard my momma cry
I heard her pray the night Chicago died
Brother, what a night the people saw
Brother, what a fight the people saw
Yes, indeed

And the sound of the battle rang
Through the streets of the old East Side
'Til the last of the hoodlum gang
Had surrendered up or died

There was shouting in the street
And the sound of running feet
And I asked someone who said
'Bout a hundred cops are dead

I heard my momma cry
I heard her pray the night Chicago died
Brother, what a night it really was
Brother, what a fight it really was
Glory be

...

Then there was no sound at all
But the clock up on the wall
Then the door burst open wide
And my daddy stepped inside
And he kissed my momma's face
Then brushed her tears away

Fighting the bad guys involves risk, Paul. It always has - the problem is that there's been a decision (consciously, by some) to believe there's no such thing as the 'bad guys'. That 'evil' is entirely subjective, and depends on which direction you're looking from. After all - the moral ability of actually deciding right from wrong is such a difficult thing to suddenly exercise ... especially when you've tried very hard to become completely values-neutral.

That attitude makes it much easier to compromise with evil, Paul. To give in to the head-hackers, to the people who car-bomb markets, who gladly kill women and children to get what they see as an advantage, because how are you supposed to judge them as evil? And it's really AMAZING that these people get irked when they see their desires fought against! So they MUST think their values are morally correct - otherwise, they wouldn't be fighting so hard! Far better to not aggravate them, right? After all, if you fight them - who knows WHAT they'll do?

I think Obama's finding out his little fantasy scenarios aren't valid. He's adopting quite a few things he soundly condemned six months back. I find it vastly amusing, personally.

And wouldn't it be hilarious if he took on Cheney as National Security Advisor?

Doubting Thomas:

Oh, something else -

At

http://wits.nctc.gov/ReportPDF.do?f=crt2008nctcannexfinal.pdf

... you get the NCTC 2008 report. Reading the details of the bombings in chapter 6 is... interesting.

Yes, far better to give in to the demands of those who would gladly kill indiscriminately. After all - you don't want to make them angry.

/sarc

Paul Hooson:

Hello Doubting Thomas. My argument is with Dick Cheney here. He always acts so self-assured as only he solve every problem including military and national security, but then the documented cases of terrorist acts throughout the world, including in the U.S. of those who send claimed anthrax through the mail to government officials, ELF firebombings, and other acts of terrorism still happened despite Cheney's claim that there wasn't terrorism in the U.S. under their watch since 9/11. That year, 2006, when nearly 12,000 persons lost their lives globally to terrorism was a real crisis point.

Doubting Thomas:

Ah, ELF. God KNOWS they were aggravated by our imperialistic hubris in Iraq, right?

So - you have problems with his CONFIDENCE? Would you prefer someone who was constantly and continually second-guessing himself on TV? I'd much rather have someone who projected strength, competence and self-confidence in charge than some sniveling, uncertain, apologetic jerk. Your mileage may vary on this - but I have no doubt you're aware of the diplomatic ramifications of an impression of weakness and uncertainty.

Now, the fact that people actually DID things considered as terrorism under his watch is something you blame on him?

Pray tell just how Cheney was supposed to affect the Tamil Tigers? Or any other group that's been fighting their neighbors for years or decades?

No - let's look at some other bits of terrorism that Cheney didn't stop, Paul. (I just randomly picked one page - 7 entries, and pulled out the Iraq/Afghanistan ones.)

On 17 April 2008, in Safati village, near Nyala, Janub Darfur, Sudan, armed assailants stormed a community, fired upon the residents, killing 10 civilians, wounding four others, and set fire to the village. No group claimed responsibility, although it was widely believed that the Sudan Liberation Army/Movement (SLA/SLM) was responsible.

Okay - how would Cheney have affected that one?

Between 19 April 2008 and 22 April 2008, in Mogadishu, Banaadir, Somalia, armed assailants fired upon Ethiopian military positions, prompting retaliatory mortar fire. The fighting escalated and extended throughout Mogadishu for the next two days, with mortar fire killing 51 Ethiopian soldiers, 23 Somali soldiers, 121 civilians, and two children; wounding about 241 civilians, 79 Ethiopian soldiers, 30 Somali soldiers, and three children; and damaging one market, several residences, and one military base. Al-Shabaab al-Islamiya claimed responsibility.

Ethiopia and Somalia have been in a pissing match for decades now. Yeah, Cheney's responsible for THIS one, for sure.

On 25 April 2008, in the evening, in Piliyandala, Western Province, Sri Lanka, at a public bus stand, assailants detonated an improvised explosive device (IED) inside a passenger bus, killing 24 civilians, one Buddhist monk, one child; injuring 33 civilians, 30 children; and destroying the bus. No group claimed responsibility, although it was widely believed the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) was responsible.

Okay - remind me again how long the Tamil Tigers have been trying to get what they want?

On 27 April 2008, at about 11:45 PM, in Mogadishu, Banaadir, Somalia, assailants fired firearms, mortars, and rocket-propelled grenades (RPG) at a military post, killing nine soldiers and damaging the military post. A mortar and firefight ensued, killing one civilian, three children, and one security guard, wounding an unspecified number of civilians, and damaging one residence. The fighting continued and the troops chased the assailants into a mosque, assaulting those inside with knives, killing at least 18 civilians, one imam, and several Islamic scholars. No group claimed responsibility, although it was widely believed that al-Shabaab al-Islamiya was responsible.

Oh, yeah, I see Cheney's hand in THIS one all right... um, not.

Damn that Cheney for not stopping them all!

How many people have been killed in terrorist attacks in the US in the last 7 years, Paul?

On Sept. 12, 2001 - how many people would you have estimated would die over the next 7 years in the US?

It's easy to say Cheney failed - but his responsibility was to the country for the security of the country. There were no repeats of 9/11. There've been no bombings in the US.

Now, maybe you're operating on a binary system where ANY instance (like the ELF fires) causes you to look at the entire effort and disregard it, and thus can call Cheney a complete failure protecting the country for what one group of eco-arsonists did. It just seems to me that you think more clearly than that, Paul - and I'm surprised you're letting your dislike of Cheney overwhelm the reality of what was expected but DIDN'T happen.

(Yeah, it's hard to prove a negative - but... NOTHING domestically in the last 7 years? THAT wasn't just chance, I think...)

Paul Hooson:

Hello again Doubting Thomas. Again my argument here is not with you, but Cheney's inflated claim about success against terrorism by his administration. Every country of the world that is cooperative was expected to join the fight against international terrorism by the U.S. However that certainly did not stop all sorts of radical movements the world over as well as Al Qaeda dramatically increasing their terrorist activities in Europe, Iraq, Africa and other parts of the world, whether it be the "shoe bomber" Richard Reid, or massive car bombings or Mosque bombings in Baghdad. Religious extremists, anarchists, political extremists, environmental extremists, others all engaged in evil activities worldwide that dramatically increased in the Bush years globally, despite the claims of Cheney.

All terrorism must be seen as political or religious crime. And such a rampant increase in such lawlessness is certainly not a sign of success. However, a downward trend from 2007 and after is at least positive movement though.

steve:

Here's the thing. Obamba promised to close Gitmo - He likely won't and even if he does the prisoners will be held without trial or sent to the military tribunals Bush set up.
Obama promised to get out of Iraq - If 50,000 troops is "leaving" then I guess you can say he keeps that promise. He's also increasing troops for Afghanistan to fight the war on terror that he said was over.
Obama's foreign policy is simply a continuation of Bush policy. Tell me the difference?
As far as this Cheyney/torture thing? 3 guys got waterboarded and Sen Botox was briefed. 3 freakin guys who would chop your head off if he had you as his guest.

Doubting Thomas:

"Religious extremists, anarchists, political extremists, environmental extremists, others all engaged in evil activities worldwide that dramatically increased in the Bush years globally, despite the claims of Cheney."

Again, Paul, I think you're missing the point. Or perhaps I'm missing yours, because I'm thinking that the purpose behind working to protect the US from terrorism isn't to appease the folks who commit those acts, but to stop them so nothing happens domestically. And while it may not have been perfectly successful (as that dumb-ass shoebomber showed) it was successful enough.

Now, here's a question for you - why do you think bombing become the favored method for trying to bring about the change these groups want? Seems like every two-bit radical group (including that bunch of idiots 'bombing' synagogues in New York) want to get their hands on explosives and make a big noise. What happened to make them think they could be successful with that?

Reagan:

Islam declared war on the non Islamic world when Islam was conceived circa 616 AD. Downward trends mean nothing. They wage war in terms of centuries and millenia, not some pansy ass hippie protest sort of way that makes people cry after a month or two or -GASP- five or six years. Bin Laden is worth millions yet he camps out in caves. That should tell you something. He has a twenty-first century bankroll but he lives in caves.

They are in it for the long haul.

They know they can wear some of us down. Essays found on this site prove them right. Not only do they wear some of us down, but some of those that are worn down are more than quitting. They have started taking up some "cause" in the form of surrender, screaming it with megaphones as if they are AQ's cheerleading squad. Ya think you are 100% sure that they are peaceful and we can share the same world? You and Pelosi are betting your lives on it. The thing that pisses me off is that you are betting my life along with it.

So, what is it that Obama is doing? Calm cool reasoning? HA!

Watch out, machmood! Barack is going to send Hillary! Remember how she handled her philandering embarrassment of a husband?

What a JOKE. Too bad our enemies are the ones laughing the hardest.

GarandFan:

Hard to believe that Bush and Cheney are no longer 'in power' the way you libs keep pounding the drum. Remember, YOU WON! Or does that somehow bother you and that you still feel insecure? And here I thought you all said how Barry would make it all better.

JoeS:

Wow, this is a perfect example of the misuse of statistics. This is like blaming FDR for all the combat deaths after Pearl Harbor.

I'll bet you feel much safer with Joe Biden.


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