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How The Obama Victory Helped To Pass Proposition 8 In California

Despite winning the state of California by more than 3 million votes over John McCain back in November 2008, the huge victory coalition of voters that supported President Obama only worked to help pass the controversial antiGay marriage Proposition 8 in California. The fact of the matter is that voter turnout among many African American families with conservative church-going values split their votes between a vote for President Obama and a vote for Proposition 8. The Gallup organization has presented polling proof that the moral values among many African American families are just as conservative as among Republicans. Further, church attendance among African Americans is even higher than among Republicans at 76% compared to 67%, compared to just 50% among nonBlack Democrats.

While some religious groups, primarily members of the Episcopal faith and Jewish voters opposed Proposition 8, support for the measure was strong among many churches more likely to have mainly African American or Republican membership.

The fact of the matter is the big California victory of Obama brought out many voters who were not social liberals. Many voters were attracted to Obama as a candidate, yet were not sympathetic to the social goals of those in the Gay rights movement. Further most minority voters did not view their drives for equality under the law as similar to the goals among the Gay community for equality under the law. Couple this with the defeat in the Supreme Court by opponents of the measure, and it all leaves opponents of the Gay marriage ban in California as needing to either break down moral resistance to the issue among voters, as well as to shrink the overall voter pool by running a ballot measure to rescind the measure in the 2010 off-year elections.

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Mac Lorry:

Part of the problem for proponents of Gay marriage in California is that California's domestic partnership law is nearly the same as it's marriage law. The differences are mostly financial except for the restriction that the partners must be at least 18 years old. It's much harder to make the "hate" or "homophobic" case on such limited grounds as the difference between marriage and domestic partnerships. On the other hand, what's left to protect?

What I find more interesting is the use of the Full Faith and Credit clause of the U.S. constitution by which Gay marriage may be imposed on states which ban it in their own constitutions. Right now the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) prevents that, but the DOMA might be ruled unconstitutional or repealed at some point. So here's my question; under the Full Faith and Credit clause why isn't my permit to carry a concealed pistol valid in states like Massachusetts?


Because you may shoot someone?


My question then, why are you allowed to drive in my state with an out of state drivers licence? I mean, you maybe will get drunk, or speed , or be talk on a cell phone, or otherwise be careless, and run over someone. Actually more liable to happen than being shot by an out of state concealed weapons holder.

Mac Lorry:


The point is that if the Full Faith and Credit clause of the U.S. constitution forces all states to accept the marriage of gays from other states it may also force all states to accept the concealed carry permits issued by other states. That's the funny thing about "principles"; they apply to things you like and things you don't like. It's only fitting that if Texas has to accept gays married in Massachusetts that Massachusetts has to accept Texas carry permits.


Th epeople who voted for Prop 8 were actually voting in line with Obamas stated preference in regards to gay marriage.

I dont really see how folks could be surprised


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